HuntingNut » Forums » Hunting » Big Game Hunting » What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails
HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: fangbaby1392
New Today: 2
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 12583

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 67
BOT: 2
Total: 69
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Your Account
03: Forums
04: Home
05: Forums
06: Your Account
07: Home
08: Home
09: Forums
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Photo Albums
14: Forums
15: Home
16: Home
17: Home
18: Home
19: Forums
20: Home
21: News
22: Forums
23: Home
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Forums
27: Forums
28: Home
29: Forums
30: Home
31: Home
32: Forums
33: Forums
34: Forums
35: Forums
36: Your Account
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Forums
40: Forums
41: Home
42: Forums
43: Forums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Forums
47: Forums
48: Home
49: Forums
50: Forums
51: Home
52: Home
53: Forums
54: Forums
55: Forums
56: Forums
57: Forums
58: Home
59: Your Account
60: Forums
61: Forums
62: Forums
63: Forums
64: Home
65: Forums
66: Forums
67: Your Account
  BOT:
01: Home
02: Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 305
 Pictures: 2358
  · Views: 372077
  · Votes: 1307
  · Comments: 85
 

Support our Advertisers

What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails
Big Game Hunting topics that dont fit other categories
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Big Game Hunting

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
aim4gold
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Oct 24, 2006
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

Using 7 RM, what bullets to you all prefer?

Last year I used a Nosler 160 accubond – when right through, exit hole the same size as the entrance hole.
Back to top
View user's profile
PaulS
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Feb 18, 2006
Posts: 3518
Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

The problem most often quoted about the &mm RM is that the heaviy bullets go through and the light bullets blow up. There doesn't seem to be any winning round but I bet if you down load the cartridge a bit to find a real accurate load well under the maximum load and use a moderate weight bullet - say a 140 grain Speer spitzer, you will find that iit is not only a lot nicer to shoot but the bullet will actually expand and go through your game.

_________________
Paul
__________________
Speer, Lyman, Hodgdon, Sierra, and Hornady = reliable loading data
So and So's pages on the internet = NOT reliable loading data
Always check data against manuals
NEVER exceed maximum listed loads
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
lince
Member
Member


Joined: Jul 19, 2006
Posts: 32
Location: Madrid, Spain

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

Hi all.
You're all right, this caliber is very powerfull, specially for very long hits, but for near shots or for not very big animals it sometimes can become excessive.
Anyway, I'm very happy with next comercial bullets:

DYNAMIT NOBEL RWS - TEILMANTEL SPITZ GESCHOSS, 9,4 g, 145 gr
Spectacular for long shots, very accurate. Its tip is relatively soft to get good shots at short range.

REMMINGTON PREMIER BALLISTIC TIP, 9,72 g, 150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip
Also very good for long shots, but its plastic tip makes it with very quick expansion in terminal ballistic, which tends to avoid to "pass trough" when used in short shots.

Because of having a little bit "hard" tip, I've stopped to use other models like Remington Express Core Lokt, 11,34 g, 175 gr. This for example was passing through too many times.

As I said, I'm very happy with 7RM, I think it's valid for every game over here (I'm from Spain).
Unfortunately, I'm not a realoader, so I cannot give to you my impressions for hand loaded bullets, but I hope my experience can give you some hints to try.

Hope that helps.
BR/lince
Back to top
View user's profile
aim4gold
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Oct 24, 2006
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

Have any of you had experience with the Barns Triple Shock? Barnes literature claims that it retains 100% of it's weight (rolls back a 4 leaf clover and doesn't come apart)
Back to top
View user's profile
kentucky hareraiser
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Oct 27, 2006
Posts: 325
Location: kentucky

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

aim,,,, i've not yet had a chance to down game with the triple shock yet,but i am reloading them. good results on the range though. at 240 yds, and a paper deer target,my hits would have led me to singing;BACK STRAP FEVER hahaha
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
SwampFox
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 15, 2005
Posts: 1040
Location: Destin, Florida

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

I use the Sierra 140 Pro Hunter over IMR 4350 which works out pretty well. I have two 7 RM guns, a Model 70 and a #1 both shoot the 140 very well.
Ed

_________________
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.
-Winston Churchill
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Grant
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Aug 28, 2006
Posts: 319
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

I've always been a big bullet fan. I use 175 grain Speer Grand Slams being pushed by 63.5 grains of IMR 4831. I've had great results on both large and medium game, either at close or long range. The only small inconvenience I find using the larger bullet it the drop at 300 + yards.

_________________
If God wanted us to be vegetarians, he would have made broccoli more fun to shoot!

If guns kill people, does that mean I can blame misspelled words on my pencil?
Back to top
View user's profile
d_hoffman
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Feb 13, 2007
Posts: 696
Location: Chillicothe, Ohio

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

I shot a deer with a 140gr Remington Corlokt at about 180 paces, (did'nt have a range finder) which was quartering sharply to me. I hit it right on the point of the shoulder. The impact knocked that deer about 8-10 feet backwards. The entry hole was small as expected but when I opened it up it looked like a grenade went off inside it.

Shot another at about 75 paces with a 150gr Remington Corlokt, looked like someone through a baseball straight through it. There was pink mist sprayed a good 20 yards out through that swamp. The deer went straight up about 5 feet in the air and fell in a heap. So take your pick. Straight off the shelf Remington ammo did the job!!!!!!!!

P.S. What ever you do, don't use Barnes X bullets. Shot a deer at 150 paces and the bullet (140gr) fragmented and a major piece of it came straight back at me. I knew this because there was an exit hole about 2 inches from the entry hole and no entry hole on the other side (scary thought). Needless to say I promptly got rid of them and went back to Remington.

_________________
The best form of gun control...aim straight!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Bushmaster
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Posts: 10505
Location: Ava, Missouri

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

Remington Cor-Lokt ammunition has always been an excellent choice. Until I started reloading it was my number one choice...But it's not as much fun as loading your own...That and there are bullets out there just as good or just a bit better then the Cor-Lokt.

_________________
I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...

DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote...
Back to top
View user's profile
buffybr
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Feb 27, 2007
Posts: 15
Location: Bozeman, MT

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

Hi all,
I just found and joined this forum, and although this thread is several months old, I've had a little experience with the 7 RM, so I'll make my first post about it.

I've been hunting about 40 years, have shot a ton of critters from Alaske to Africa. I got my first 7 RM about 5 years ago, a plain Jane Rem 700 ADL. I had booked my first trip to Africa, and my old standby, a .30 Gibbs, broke down a month before the trip. I had always wanted a 7 Rem Mag, so this was a good time to get one. I only shoot handloads in all of my guns, and with less than a month before my trip, I only worked up loads for 140 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips and 150 gr Nosler Partitions. The BT's proved most accurate, so I took them.

The 140 gr BT is on the light side for the larger antelope, but I took 9 animals ranging in size from a Bushbuck (about the size of a Whitetail doe) to a Kudu (about the size of a spike Elk). Most were one shot kills, and most shots were complete "behind the shoulder" pass throughs, with about a 1 1/2" exit hole.

I also used that rifle/load for Pronghorn antelope here in Montana, and again, one shot kills, and the animals basically dropped in their tracks.

I then worked up a load with 160 gr Nosler Accubonds. I find it a superb bullet for this caliber. It worked great for me in Canada's Northwest Territories in 2004 for two Caribou and a B&C Musk Ox.

I then "upgraded" my 700 ADL to a Rem 700 BDL Stainless 7 RM. I used it with the 160 gr Accubonds in Africa in 2005 for a half dozen Plains Game antelope varying in size from Mountain Reedbuck to Black Wildebeest. Again, most shots were complete pass through's and one shot kills. They left HUGE wound channels inside the animals, but only 1 - 1 1/2" exit holes.

As to how all this rambling relates to the question asked on this thread as to what bullet to use in the 7 RM for Whitetail deer, well, I've only killed a dozen or so Whitetail, and none were with a 7 RM. All of my Whitetail were shot with my .257 Ackley with either 117 gr Sierra Spitzers or 120 gr Hornady Hollow points. All were one shot kills, and complete pass through's. A little lighter than my 7 RM pills, but approximately the same velocity of about 3000 fps.

My point is, I have found that my 7 RM is accurate and powerful enough for any deer or antelope size animal in North America or Africa. I have settled on one load for my 7 RM, the 160 gr Nosler Accubond, and I will use that load for anything I wish to hunt with this rifle. That said, if I was ONLY to hunt Whitetails with my 7 RM, I would probably NOT use a "premium" bullet. As I mentioned with my .257 AI, I think any "standard" expanding bullet (Sierra, Hornady, Nosler, Remington, etc) in a 7mm Rem Mag will adequately and quickly kill a Whitetail deer IF PUT IN THE RIGHT SPOT. I feel that accuracy and bullet placement are the most improtant.


Last edited by buffybr on Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:14 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
d_hoffman
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Feb 13, 2007
Posts: 696
Location: Chillicothe, Ohio

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

Bushmaster wrote:
Remington Cor-Lokt ammunition has always been an excellent choice. Until I started reloading it was my number one choice...But it's not as much fun as loading your own...That and there are bullets out there just as good or just a bit better then the Cor-Lokt.

I agree, loading your own would be better all the way around but if you don't you can't go wrong with Cor-Lokt's. They're pretty good price wise too.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Handloader
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Aug 22, 2005
Posts: 1032
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

aim4gold wrote:
Have any of you had experience with the Barns Triple Shock? Barnes literature claims that it retains 100% of it's weight (rolls back a 4 leaf clover and doesn't come apart)

The TSX has propelled Barnes to new heights in quality bullets for big game. Their record of reliable expansion and deep penetration has been superb and the new TSX corrects some of the issues of fouling and pressure of the earlier X bullets.

To get the testimonials, visit any of the African or Alaskan forums and you will find many dedicated and experienced hunters choosing this bullet over most others. Myriad articles have extolled their performance and improvements. Weight retention has been superb. (I have 12 recovered TSX, all with over 88% retained weight, most with more.) Accuracy is good enough that some even use them long range match shoots (the 168gr 308 cal TSX Match).

The bullet is well constructed enough that it is often possible to use a lighter weight bullet with more velocity/flatter trajectory. It is a boon to those that select Magnum capacity cartridges in that the TSX is great at close or distant hits without concern of fragmentation. Once in awhile one or two of the petals may shear, but the main body will continue intact.

My personal experience has reflected all the above points. I have guided elk hunts for nearly a decade and while good quality bullets of most brands will do a good job, the TSX is notable for consistency, for lack of excessive meat damage and for unequaled penetration.
Back to top
View user's profile
SwampFox
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 15, 2005
Posts: 1040
Location: Destin, Florida

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

Sorry, but my experiance with TSX has been awful.

I bought my fist and last TSX bullets in one box. They were 140 grain 264 bullets for my 6.5x06. Shot through a paper target into moist sand. They bent rather than expand, they broke in half rather than expand, they would not group worth a darn and left copper fouling in the barrel that took cleaning after cleaning to remove. The inside of the bore looked like a copper pipe (Douglas air gage premium 1-9 twist).

I went to the shot show, looked them up, on the first day, and gave the whole bunch down the road for selling Junque' (high dollar junk).
Ed

_________________
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.
-Winston Churchill
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
longshots
Member
Member


Joined: Feb 12, 2005
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

I have been shootin the 7 Mag for 13 years and have always reloaded. I have never had a problem with 140gr Nosler BT's over 65gr IMR 4350, it has taken quite a few whitetails as well as mule deer. The only thing close to a failure was on a mule deer at 200 yards. He was quartering away going down into a cut and the spine was all I had to shoot at. The BT hit half-way back on his spine and when I caped him out the bullet had followed the spine all the way to his left front shoulder. The recovered bullet weighed in at 93gr and the deer is on the wall.
Back to top
View user's profile
sniper
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Aug 18, 2005
Posts: 735
Location: Utah

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: What bullet - 7 RM on Whitetails Reply with quote

[quote="aim4gold"]Using 7 RM, what bullets to you all prefer?

The least expensive one that gives acceptable accuracy. On a small animal like deer, none of 'em will bounce off, and even a round nose will do within 300 yards.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Big Game Hunting
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Advertisements
 


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.