HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: eleyxring
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 1
Overall: 12411

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 313
BOT: 4
Total: 317
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Forums
04: Forums
05: Photo Albums
06: Forums
07: Forums
08: Forums
09: Forums
10: News
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Forums
14: Forums
15: Forums
16: Forums
17: Forums
18: Forums
19: Forums
20: Forums
21: Forums
22: Forums
23: Forums
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Forums
27: Forums
28: Forums
29: Photo Albums
30: Photo Albums
31: Your Account
32: Your Account
33: Forums
34: Forums
35: Forums
36: Forums
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Forums
40: Forums
41: Forums
42: Forums
43: Photo Albums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Forums
47: Forums
48: Forums
49: Photo Albums
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: News
53: Forums
54: Photo Albums
55: Home
56: Forums
57: Forums
58: Forums
59: Forums
60: Forums
61: Forums
62: Forums
63: Forums
64: Forums
65: Photo Albums
66: Forums
67: Forums
68: Forums
69: Forums
70: Forums
71: Forums
72: Forums
73: Forums
74: Forums
75: Forums
76: Forums
77: Forums
78: Forums
79: Forums
80: Forums
81: Forums
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Forums
85: Forums
86: Forums
87: Forums
88: Forums
89: Forums
90: Forums
91: Forums
92: Forums
93: Forums
94: Forums
95: Forums
96: Forums
97: Forums
98: Forums
99: Forums
100: Forums
101: Forums
102: Forums
103: Your Account
104: Forums
105: Forums
106: Forums
107: Forums
108: Forums
109: Forums
110: Forums
111: Forums
112: Forums
113: Forums
114: Forums
115: Forums
116: Forums
117: Forums
118: Forums
119: Forums
120: Forums
121: Forums
122: Photo Albums
123: Forums
124: Photo Albums
125: Forums
126: Forums
127: Forums
128: Forums
129: Forums
130: Forums
131: Your Account
132: Forums
133: Forums
134: Forums
135: Forums
136: Forums
137: Forums
138: Forums
139: Forums
140: Forums
141: Forums
142: Forums
143: Forums
144: Forums
145: Forums
146: Forums
147: Forums
148: Forums
149: Forums
150: Forums
151: Forums
152: Forums
153: Forums
154: Forums
155: Forums
156: Forums
157: Forums
158: Forums
159: Forums
160: Forums
161: Photo Albums
162: Forums
163: Forums
164: Forums
165: Forums
166: Forums
167: Forums
168: Forums
169: Forums
170: Forums
171: Forums
172: Forums
173: Forums
174: Forums
175: Forums
176: Forums
177: Forums
178: Forums
179: Forums
180: Forums
181: Forums
182: Forums
183: Forums
184: Photo Albums
185: Forums
186: Forums
187: Forums
188: Your Account
189: Forums
190: Forums
191: Forums
192: Forums
193: Forums
194: Forums
195: Forums
196: Photo Albums
197: Forums
198: Forums
199: Forums
200: Forums
201: Forums
202: Forums
203: Forums
204: Forums
205: Forums
206: Forums
207: Forums
208: Forums
209: Forums
210: Forums
211: Forums
212: Forums
213: Forums
214: Forums
215: Forums
216: Forums
217: Forums
218: Your Account
219: Forums
220: Forums
221: Your Account
222: Photo Albums
223: Forums
224: Forums
225: Your Account
226: Your Account
227: Your Account
228: Forums
229: Forums
230: Forums
231: Your Account
232: Forums
233: Forums
234: Forums
235: Forums
236: Forums
237: Forums
238: Forums
239: Forums
240: Forums
241: Forums
242: Forums
243: Forums
244: Forums
245: Forums
246: Forums
247: Forums
248: Forums
249: Forums
250: Forums
251: Forums
252: Forums
253: Forums
254: Forums
255: Forums
256: Forums
257: Forums
258: Forums
259: Forums
260: Forums
261: Forums
262: Photo Albums
263: Forums
264: Forums
265: Forums
266: Forums
267: Your Account
268: Photo Albums
269: Photo Albums
270: Forums
271: Forums
272: Forums
273: Photo Albums
274: Forums
275: Forums
276: Forums
277: Forums
278: Forums
279: Forums
280: Forums
281: Forums
282: Forums
283: Forums
284: Forums
285: Forums
286: Forums
287: Forums
288: Forums
289: Photo Albums
290: Forums
291: Photo Albums
292: Forums
293: Forums
294: Forums
295: Forums
296: Forums
297: Your Account
298: Forums
299: Forums
300: Forums
301: Forums
302: Forums
303: Forums
304: Forums
305: Photo Albums
306: Forums
307: Forums
308: Forums
309: Forums
310: Forums
311: Forums
312: Forums
313: Photo Albums
  BOT:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Forums
04: Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 300
 Pictures: 2352
  · Views: 270465
  · Votes: 1286
  · Comments: 86
 

Support our Advertisers

Remington 870 Wingmaster 16
Discussions related to Guns and Firearms

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Mossberg Moose
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Dec 15, 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

After buying and collecting/refinishing a dozen Mossberg bolt action 16 gauges, I bought a Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 gauge pump shotgun 28" barrel in very good condition & nice checkering, full choke 2 3\4" chamber. serial#S672886W. Can anyone tell me a little about what I've got? I'm guessing it is a late 50's gun and I plan to use it for upland game and would like to find a IMP or MOD barrel for it at a reasonable price.
You can actually still see it at: www.gunbroker.com/Auct...m=62271011
It's going pheasant hunting with me tomorrow and I'm bringing a back-up = Western Field M550B (Mossberg Model 500B), 16 Gauge C-Lect Choke® Pump Action
Back to top
View user's profile
1895ss
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 21, 2005
Posts: 2613
Location: West of Here!!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

Welcome Mossberg Moose, here's what you've got ......... hope it helps.
www.remington.com/libr...master.asp

_________________
A cruel truth is much more desirable than a really nice lie.
'Tis far better to walk alone than to follow a crowd or an a**hole going the wrong way.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Mossberg Moose
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Dec 15, 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

Thanks, but that site doesn't make any sense. As best as I can tell from it, the gun was made in 2002. It just says Remington 870 Wingmaster on the reciever, but with the limitation of 2 3/4" shells and the forearm, make me think it is a 1950 version ?

Can I hunt ducks/shoot steel shot through this old / full choke barrel ??

It accounted for my 2 pheasant limit last weekend with only 2 shots. Had to use non-toxic because of where I hunt (used Bismuth rather than steel).
Back to top
View user's profile
1895ss
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 21, 2005
Posts: 2613
Location: West of Here!!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

remington.custhelp.com...d=f2Njjupi

_________________
A cruel truth is much more desirable than a really nice lie.
'Tis far better to walk alone than to follow a crowd or an a**hole going the wrong way.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Gil Martin
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 28, 2005
Posts: 1570
Location: Schnecksville, PA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

From the style of the forend cuts, it appears that your 16 gauge dates from the late 1950s or early 1960s. I have earlier model 870s with the tootsie roll forend and later ones with different checkering patterns. Look at the website below to determine the date it was made. There is a two digit code on most Remington firearms and that will denote the year of manufacture. You may be assured that your gun was not made in 2002. Hope this helps. All the best...
Gil



oldguns.net/sn_php/remdates.php

_________________
Gil
Back to top
View user's profile
Handloader
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Aug 22, 2005
Posts: 1032
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

Sidenote: early 870 16ga shotguns were based on the smaller & lighter 20 ga action whereas current 16ga are based on the 12ga action. The weight difference is considerable.
Back to top
View user's profile
Mossberg Moose
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Dec 15, 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

It does handle more like a 20 gauge than a 12. I just got info back from Remington on the serial number. I have yet to hear about if I can shoot steel shot through the full choke barrel. I brought home 2 more pheasant this morning with it using Bismuth (it took 3 shells today). The second part of my question was: "Can I hunt ducks/shoot steel shot through this old / full choke barrel ??"
Thier reply from Remington on the age of the gun from the serial number is:

Remington Information <info@remington.com> wrote:
Response (Gloria) - 12/19/2006 11:35 AM

hank you for contacting Remington Country. Your Model 870 was produced around 1972.

From other responses, it appears I have a mis-match 870, I've taken the forend off and it has a 12 stamped on it on the under side and another reader advised that the butt stock is most likely from a newer version 870.
Back to top
View user's profile
moose2
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Mar 19, 2005
Posts: 707
Location: North Idaho

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

More than likely you will find that you can shoot steel out of your old 870.
What will probably happen, though, is that after time your full choke will gradually be degraded to something less than full choke, depending how much steel one shoots through it. Myself, I went through a similar situation with my old 870 12 ga. I shot steel through it's full choke for a number of years. I debated getting a new barrel for it, but opted to have choke tubes installed in the old barrel. It works fine and was a good decision for my circumstances, plus now the old 870 is alot more versatile.
Good Luck with your trusty old 870.--tr

_________________
tr
Back to top
View user's profile
faithfarms
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Feb 19, 2008
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

Just joined this site. I realize this is a very old posting. Hopefully you have not shot steel shot through a full choke bbl. That is damaging & potentially dangerous.
There is a number on left side of bbl that you can use for date of mfgr of bbl. Here is a web site you can use to look up the date:
armscollectors.com/sn/remdates.php
Of course, that does not tell you anything about the receiver. Taking butt stock off & looking at that was a good suggestion.
If it is truly an early weapon, which sounds like it is not, then a modern bbl will not fit. I have that problem & want an early bbl. I have a bbl for a modern 870 Wingmaster 16 ga that won't fit mine. Let me know if you still need one & we can work out something. I got mine from gunbroker.com though ebay sometimes has bbls. bueno suerte!
Back to top
View user's profile
Mossberg Moose
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Dec 15, 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

I just got another Remington 870 Wingmaster on GunBroker.com with a MOD choke barrel and I've confirmed that it was produced in Nov 1966. I checked with Remington on the age of the first one from the serial number and Remington Information <info@remington.com> wrote: "Your Model 870 was produced around 1972."

Over the past year I've seen several of these Wingmaster's with the tootsie roll forend and it appears that was an option rather than just an early model identifier. My "new" (produced Nov 1966) has the very nice checkering pattern and it appears to be all original. It also has 28 stamped on the under side of the forend (seems lighter), the '72 has a 12 stamped on it. The only difference I have been able to find is that the '66 butt plate is curved to fit the stock but the '72 is flat with a white plate and nice kickpad.

Don't worry about the steel shot, I'm using Bismuth, which also became extremely hard to find this year (used up what I had in stock).
Back to top
View user's profile
faithfarms
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Feb 19, 2008
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

Glad to hear about bismouth vrs steel. Could have een bad for you & the bbl. I think my bbl is a 28" mod. If you still want one I will check to make sure. My email is: phone @ clover.net
Interesting fine about the tootsie role fore end. I had not heard that. Good to know at auctions!
Please let me know if you find a bbl for the old style 870.
I also have several Mossberg 190's (16 ga bolt) like you described. That was my first shotgun. Just found I have 3 now. If you want another one, I could probably part w/ one. Thanks!
Back to top
View user's profile
Mossberg Moose
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Dec 15, 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

faithfarms, I've also got about a half dozen Mossberg 190s, so I really don't need another one. I do have a extra stock for a 190KB that I refinished that could use some hardware to make a great gun. If one of your 190s is a KB, I may have something you can use. What I bought was a kickpad, but what I got was the wood stock and a kickpad. I just happed to be refinishing another 190KB so I was able to confirm exactly what it fits. It is a very good looking black walnut./
redrhino84 @ sbcglobal.net
Back to top
View user's profile
faithfarms
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Feb 19, 2008
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

which is a KB & how do you tell? How much do you want for the stock?
Back to top
View user's profile
Mossberg Moose
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Dec 15, 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 Reply with quote

It will be stamped on the barrel right after the 190. If you do not have a 190KB, my stock will not work with other 190s, I've tried and it doesn't fit. send me an e-mail at my e-mail address (end of last input) and I'll send a picture of the stock.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Gun & Firearm Discussions
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 7 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Advertisements
 


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.