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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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Elvis wrote: |
..... black powder is completely new to me and Im making it harder by making it myself... |
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:21 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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poked a weighed 45grains B.P. in case,tetrapack spacer,slice of earplug,topped off with 395grn hollow base cast...will see what happens when trigger is pulled. no air space in case...
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pete4d Super Member
Joined: Nov 27, 2011 Posts: 957 Location: Dixie , Alabama , & Louisiana
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:08 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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If we hear from you again, I guess it all worked out .
All kidding aside , that should be a good starting load , you may want to stay away from the foam type wad as they may melt in the barrel , try and use some material that will burn,,,,,, just my thoughts on matter.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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Elvis, are you still there?!?!
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inthedark Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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some of the old timers who shot black powder actually use corn meal or creme of wheat as filler in their cartridges. They keep the loads upright and then load singly at the range.
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pete4d Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:38 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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yip still in one piece...still waiting patiently.
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:00 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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well it goes bang and big hunk of lead flies out end and puts big holes in things... the 45grn BP load was very mild...sort of like a 2 1/2" .410 load...the 45grns of 2208 on the other hand starts to have a tad of check slap.... we manages to put holes in 8" square we were pointing it towards at 30-40 yards which it all I hoped for at beginning....didnt try to get fancy of shoot a group...might do that later,today was about making sure it was safe and worked...am I happy??? very much so.
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pete4d Super Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:29 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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. Sounds good , now you can start working up , the right load . Have a good day . pete
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gemihur Member
Joined: Mar 04, 2014 Posts: 44 Location: Ridgelines of the Blue Ridge Mtns
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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Do you guys get IMR Trail Boss down there?
It has gained great popularity in the resurgence of Cowboy Action Shooting here in the states.
A very light an fluffy powder designed to be very volumetric. It fills a case and doesn't weigh diddly! I put only 13.0 grains of the stuff in a 45-70 case to fill it and seat a cast 340 gr. bullet from the Lee mold 457-340-F and it shoot like your holding a .410 shotgun!
It is an easy solution to the shoulder punishing outcome that usually results from the use of my 45-70. note: Do not compress Trail Boss... leave room in the brass to accommodate the bullet seating.
Try it, you'll like it!
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inthedark Super Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:44 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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English Mike Super Member
Joined: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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gemihur wrote: |
Do you guys get IMR Trail Boss down there?
It has gained great popularity in the resurgence of Cowboy Action Shooting here in the states.
A very light an fluffy powder designed to be very volumetric. It fills a case and doesn't weigh diddly! I put only 13.0 grains of the stuff in a 45-70 case to fill it and seat a cast 340 gr. bullet from the Lee mold 457-340-F and it shoot like your holding a .410 shotgun!
It is an easy solution to the shoulder punishing outcome that usually results from the use of my 45-70. note: Do not compress Trail Boss... leave room in the brass to accommodate the bullet seating.
Try it, you'll like it! |
Hmm. Might have to look at that for my .38spl plinking loads. Never been all that happy with 10% filled cases using slower powders.
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:28 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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gemihur wrote: |
Do you guys get IMR Trail Boss down there?
It has gained great popularity in the resurgence of Cowboy Action Shooting here in the states.
A very light an fluffy powder designed to be very volumetric. It fills a case and doesn't weigh diddly! I put only 13.0 grains of the stuff in a 45-70 case to fill it and seat a cast 340 gr. bullet from the Lee mold 457-340-F and it shoot like your holding a .410 shotgun!
It is an easy solution to the shoulder punishing outcome that usually results from the use of my 45-70. note: Do not compress Trail Boss... leave room in the brass to accommodate the bullet seating.
Try it, you'll like it! |
revive thread time.
interesting thing about trailboss loads in the big case....pressures using TB are HIGHER than some of the smokeless loads for same velocity.
Ive managed to knock over a few wallabies using this rifle and sorted some better sights for her.
also sorted a really good duplex load...7 grns smokeless (2219) with 50 grns of homerolled blackpowder ontop and the 400grn cast projectile on top... goes bang nicely ,MUCH MUCH cleaner than straight HRBP,slightly less recoil than the 45grns of 2208.... and cheap as chips.
still havent managed a deer with it yet....plenty of time .
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11386 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:06 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? |
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.45-70? Those wallabies must be hard to kill.
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