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PaulS Super Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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Pete,
Now THAT is one complicated wiring job! Mine has a power cord that runs to a switch box and two wires to the motor but then I was going for simple. Yours may be more complex but they do the same job.
I could add some feet on the front of my frame but so far it works and like you I don't shoot much of the rimmed ammo. I made the box with a 15 degree back tilt and although the rails will stack over two hundred cases I don't trust it past about 75.
I haven't even separated my 30-30 cases yet. They are in with a pile of pistol and rifle brass in several buckets I just haven't gotten to yet.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:29 am Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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I'm impressed, pete!
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pete4d Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:32 am Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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Paul" Yours may be more complex but they do the same job."
That's one thing I like about yours IT's simple.
There's a few things I need to tinker with on mine . Like you I don't over load the hopper .
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pete4d Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:42 am Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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PaulS wrote: |
Pete,
Now THAT is one complicated wiring job! Mine has a power cord that runs to a switch box and two wires to the motor but then I was going for simple. Yours may be more complex but they do the same job.
I could add some feet on the front of my frame but so far it works and like you I don't shoot much of the rimmed ammo. I made the box with a 15 degree back tilt and although the rails will stack over two hundred cases I don't trust it past about 75.
I haven't even separated my 30-30 cases yet. They are in with a pile of pistol and rifle brass in several buckets I just haven't gotten to yet. |
Paul on the wiring job ; A few links on the parts and the HOW-to
youtu.be/miDQlEIBH9Q
youtu.be/qsQ-qzrt_WE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xE-6bSwME
www.ebay.com/itm/DC-6-...:rk:8:pf:0
www.ebay.com/p/2pcs-Hi...3274058088
www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Ad...rk:13:pf:0
www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12...:rk:1:pf:0
I've ran 5.7x28mm(1000-more or less), 308-win(>100<) ,303-British(50-more than once) , 223-Rem (way more that a few 1000 ), 30-378 Wby (20 or more), though mine , but haven't tried any pistol cart. yet.
Does take a few min. to set up but all the cases turn out the same , just have a few cases to ruin on the set up
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PaulS Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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Well, the important part is that it works for you.
I tried a couple of 30-30 cases today... I will have to cut clearance in the guides at the bottom to clear the rims. There is a radius on the cold formed angle iron I used so it traps the rim. If I had used real angle iron it would not be an issue.
The other point is how many I can stack in the rack is still open. I ran across two 30-30 cases in with some 223 I was sorting so I just tried it with two. It needs about 1/8 inch ground off the bottom inside so the rims will clear.
On the other side I have 200 223 prepped and primed and ready for powder and bullets. I'm still working on an accuracy load for my 18" AR.
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gelandangan Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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Beautifully done both of you!
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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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Yep, I agree with Gelandangan...great job in both cases.
These two builds are very similar to my annealer which is shown in a previous post here.
www.huntingnut.com/ind...e+annealer
My cabinet is a bit rough and ready, but it works. The speed of the two rotating parts is easy to control and allows for minor adjustments if needed for different cases.
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pete4d Super Member
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pete4d Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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While we're on the annealing , I'll post a few pictures why I built mine
The Rifle AR-57 , 50-round mag. , lower mag. catches the hulls no spring or follower ,
The top mag. after a neck separation
These are the shells # 1 2 & 3 are the reloads ......#4 is normal case neck stretch (blow-back bolt doesn't lock), # 5 possible over charge or could after the neck separation ? # 6 the separated case # 8 the next round though the chamber (ouch) never have your hand on the mag. well . # 7 If you look close to the bullet and the end of the neck you'll see neck of # 6 . It also blew the bottom plate of the lower mag. off and swelled the sides . I was lucky I only received a bloody hand from the pressure when she blew.
One more picture
#4 possible over charge
#5- with the extra neck ,was used to extract the neck of the broken case
#6 the exploded case
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PaulS Super Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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The "kool factor" makes me want one but the 57 is too weird for me.
I have a hard enough time fitting 55 grain bullets and a 223 brass into the seating die. My hands keep getting the the way.
So, how much does a replacement magazine run?
_________________ Paul
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PaulS Super Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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Vince,
Yours is like the one I saw and decided to see if I could get it to work without all the complexity. Luckily it worked so I don't have to build the more expensive one.
I tend to be... frugal (you know, cheap)
_________________ Paul
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:55 am Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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pete, how many reloads do you have on your brass when the case neck separated?
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pete4d Super Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:58 am Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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slimjim wrote: |
pete, how many reloads do you have on your brass when the case neck separated? |
. I think it was on the 3rd , I'm using mainly 6.2 gr. TRUE BLUE powder now with a 40gr. HORNADY Z-MAX , with a very lite crimp just enough to hold in place . I get a very lite stretch in the neck with this load .
. As the FN 5.7 original rounds have a special lube on the case , I use 3-in-one DRY LUBE oil on my hands as I load the magazines. When I first started the 5.7x28 wasn't much info out there , Got a lot of good starting points at this site .
www.fivesevenforum.com/index.php
I'm running the 5.x28mm though the annealer every second reload now , Using a sonic cleaner W/dawn detergent as a cleaner , before the resizing and de-priming. Some of the cases are their 5th or 6th reload using this .
. About time for many to go in the cull tub .
This accident happened over a year ago , made me start checking all my cases a little closer . If in has any discoloration of any kind its marked and in the tub .
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When the SHTF I'm gonna hunker down until all those idiots kill each other. up-date
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pete4d Super Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:14 am Post subject: Re: I finally finished my new toy! |
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PaulS wrote: |
The "kool factor" makes me want one but the 57 is too weird for me.
I have a hard enough time fitting 55 grain bullets and a 223 brass into the seating die. My hands keep getting the the way.
So, how much does a replacement magazine run? |
Paul , It is a fun little gun I use to squirrel , rabbit hunt and general varmint gun. As for the magazine I think I payed in the $30.00 range for the Fn brand was told to stay clear of some of the generic brands .
"I have a hard enough time fitting 55 grain bullets" Paul
You ought to try some these little buggers .
www.midwayusa.com/prod...box-of-100
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