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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:55 pm    Post subject: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

According to the news stories, the Iraqi forces ran away over the last few days and left behind a lot of military equipment and helpless civilians to Isis. Looks like we have been training the Iraqi Army for over ten years and one wonders when they will complete basic training. Sounds like South Vietnam all over again. Does not look good. All the best...
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

Our history of nation building hasn't gone well has it. It's hard to bring democracy to an uncivilized population and it has been said that some of these countries actually need a dictator in order for them to function. Iraq may well fit that category. Liz Cheney, Daughter of Dick Cheney, recently tweeted a question for Hillary and Obama asking if they knew then what they know now would they still have abandoned Iraq.
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

Remember how hard they fought us ... Not.

On the bright side, also remember that they held Iran at bay for eight years!

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

we keep making the same mistake overseas; you can't give someone their rights - they have to learn to fight for them. Until then it's like trying to cure an addict that likes the high better than anything life has to offer.

We got to the point once where we had to fight for our freedom, it may happen again.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

Paul the Intelligent wrote:
...We got to the point once where we had to fight for our freedom, it may happen again.

Unfortunately Paul, I think the possibility of that is on the horizon for quite a few countries...Australia included. burr burr

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

I believe you may be right. Sad that it would come to that...

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

It's hard to bring people to freedom when they really have no idea what being free means. If you've been a subject for 10,000 years with no responsibility it's very difficult to understand the responsibility of freedom. Most of the people in the U.S. don't understand it so why would a people who have been dictated to for centuries. IMHO.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:22 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

Insightful, lester

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

Apparently the Iraq's did put up a good fight for about 3 days.
Isis simply beat them in this case.
Are they ever going to be as good as a western army?
Probably not.
Isis seems to have a clue, I wonder who has the experience in that outfit.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

Scratch my above post.
They did an arab and run away.
W.O.F.T.A.M the whole country.

Wheres Bush, bet the weapons of mass hysteria story doesn't sound so good now.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

As mad as ISIS is I'd be more concerned about the Chinese influence in our world - that is a real threat to democracy and our respective countries.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

It will be fun when Isis becomes bold/stupid enough to take on the chinese.
They have a whole different view on rules of engagement and have few hand wringing soft c#£%s in their leadership.
Might give the chinese something else to do besides cyber attacks and buying up the western world.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

they are all a threat to the way we live.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: When will the Iraqi Army be trained? Reply with quote

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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