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peepsight Rookie Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: 45 colt |
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can any one tell me the differance, if any between 45 colt and45 long colt?
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PaulS Super Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: Re: 45 colt |
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The 45 Colt is sometimes called the 45 Long Colt to distinguish it from the other shorter case cartridges but the proper name is 45 Colt.
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Spacedone Member
Joined: Nov 04, 2005 Posts: 266 Location: missouri
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:14 am Post subject: Re: 45 colt |
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a better question might be whats the difference between a 45 long colt and a 45 40
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11393 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: Re: 45 colt |
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I much prefer .45 long Colt as it diferenciates it from the .45 colt used in the late 1800's which was shorter then the .45 long Colt...
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Al_Sohlstrom Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: 45 colt |
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Hi
Bushmaster wrote: |
I much prefer .45 long Colt as it diferenciates it from the .45 colt used in the late 1800's which was shorter then the .45 long Colt... |
The actual name was the .45 Colt Government, if I remember correctly, but almost everyone that used it called it the .45 short Colt, in keeping with the short/long nomencalture of other Colt cartriges. (the .45 Colt Government from research. The short/long from anecdotal evidence of a former user of said cartridge.)
Folks just got used to calling it the .45 long Colt to tell'em apart, and it's hard to break 200 year-old habits.
[edit] HEY! Leverguns.com actually has an article about this!! [/edit]
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: 45 colt |
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Nice to read ya again, Al...Where ya been, for cryin' out loud...I really like what I read on that site (leverguns.com) about the "Long" and "Short" of it. In all reality that should put an end to this "name" problem, but it won't...
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PaulS Super Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: 45 colt |
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The 45 Colt was adopted in 1873 by the US Army. It was sometimes referred to as the "Long Colt" to differentiate it from the previous 45 S&W Schofield. The 45 Colt was originally loaded with a 225 grain lead round nose bullet atop 40 grains of FFg Black powder (45 - 40) and was much more powerful than the previous S&W 45. It was introduced the same time as the Colt Peacemaker and the Single Action Army. It was an instant success with the Army and with the public. It has remain unchanged since its introduction with one exception; It originally used a .454 inch diameter bullet and is most often chambered for 451 diameter bullets today.
The Colt short was a 38 caliber as was the "New Colt Police" round - there was a 41 Short Colt but never a 45 short colt.
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peepsight Rookie Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:24 am Post subject: Re: 45 colt |
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i understand what your saying,i'll stick with the long colt.thanx
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