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Hybrid 100V
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:52 pm    Post subject: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

Hey Folks!

This is my first post on this site....

Has anyone used this powder ( Hybrid 100V ) for .300 win mag? I'm thinking about loading it behind 180 SST Interbonds... Hornady has a 3000 fps load with 180 grainers and 68.2 grains of this powder, this is 2 grains or so under max, per the 8th edition. I've been loading with IMR 4831 for sometime now, 180 grain loaded @ 2820 fps... yes it shoots this load very, very well. However the extra 200 -300 fps cant hurt. I'm also planning on working on a load with the same powder with the 208 grain Amax. I dont want to push the IMR any harder than what I'm doing now.

So, if you have used this powder please let me know your 2 cents... Pros / Cons.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

Gday Kevin, Welcome mate..
Grab a beer from Vince's fridge and sit near the fire..
someone would pipe up on your question..

It wouldn't be me coz I know nothing of 300 Win Mag, not the projectile and nor the powder.
Your rig sounds pretty good.. Sub MOA at 1000 yards are absolutely great.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

gelandangan wrote:
Gday Kevin, Welcome mate..
Grab a beer from Vince's fridge and sit near the fire..
someone would pipe up on your question..

It wouldn't be me coz I know nothing of 300 Win Mag, not the projectile and nor the powder.
Your rig sounds pretty good.. Sub MOA at 1000 yards are absolutely great.

Thanks for the welcome gelandangan!

Yes, shes a good shooter, just trying to reach the 1500 yard mark without loading above max, if possible. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

Sub MOA @ 1000 yds ???

And your wanting to try another load why ? Now I have to go and shoot my old Browning A-Bolt way on down the road as quit at 200 yds with sub MOA ! Never thought about trying to take an animal out to 1500 yds. Am only getting 3,225 fps out of my IMR4350 load behind a Barnes 168gr. TSX Match. How far do I need to hold over to get on target at 1500 yds. ? Do I need a bigger scope ? Not sure I can see the actual target point in the bottom of my Leupold 3X9 at that range with a 200 yd. zero... What ever will I do ??? ( just razzin ya,,, if you can shoot that good I am extremely jealous ). Hodgdon does not show the same 180 gr. bullet but the Sierra they list shows a max load of 67.7 grs to be a max load as well as a compressed load in the 300 Win. Mag. Quite a difference there. Welcome to " The Hunting Nut "

**** Post edited by me as now has correct max load data numbers ****
**** per Hodgdons reloading data website . I am ever so sorry that ****
this needed to be done and assure you never again, 10 Spot Sad



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

welcome. I too cant help as 200 yrds is a far enough range for this Kiwi. Ive shot animals further but not many or often and much prefer to get under 200.
I would hazard a guess that you are talking about punching holes in paper at that range and not animals???? there are guys over here that are taking/talking deer at 1km plus but thats just not my cuppa tea. too many reviables and chance of a wounding and man thats a long way to go BEFORE starting to look for a blood trail. keep looking as Im sure someone here will know what you are asking.nice looking rifle .

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

Elvis wrote:
welcome. I too cant help as 200 yrds is a far enough range for this Kiwi. Ive shot animals further but not many or often and much prefer to get under 200.
I would hazard a guess that you are talking about punching holes in paper at that range and not animals???? there are guys over here that are taking/talking deer at 1km plus but thats just not my cuppa tea. too many reviables and chance of a wounding and man thats a long way to go BEFORE starting to look for a blood trail. keep looking as Im sure someone here will know what you are asking.nice looking rifle .

Elvis, yes we are shooting steel targets and paper at the 1k mark. Sub MOA at 1000 yards is a group under 10" however the x ring is 5"

As for taking game, I would never take game with the chance of just wounding them. I've never pulled the trigger on a deer past 390 yards. When I pull the trigger they need to be D.R.T.

I'm wanting to try this powder out for the 180, 190 grain Berger VLD and the Amax 208. With the Hybrid 100V Hornady also has a load for the 190 grainers @ 2933 fps. I'm really wanting to get to the 1500 yard marker and ring some steel...

Thanks for the welcome!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

10spotterminator wrote:
Sub MOA @ 1000 yds ???

And your wanting to try another load why ? Now I have to go and shoot my old Browning A-Bolt way on down the road as quit at 200 yds with sub MOA ! Never thought about trying to take an animal out to 1500 yds. Am only getting 3,225 fps out of my IMR4350 load behind a Barnes 168gr. TSX Match. How far do I need to hold over to get on target at 1500 yds. ? Do I need a bigger scope ? Not sure I can see the actual target point in the bottom of my Leupold 3X9 at that range with a 200 yd. zero... What ever will I do ??? ( just razzin ya,,, if you can shoot that good I am extremely jealous ). Hodgdon does not show the same 180 gr. bullet but the Sierra they list shows a max load of 74.0 grs to be a max load as well as a compressed load in the 300 Win. Mag. Quite a difference there. Welcome to " The Hunting Nut "

10 Spot

I've been shooting competitively F T/R mid range F-Class for years now from 300 to 600 yards.

But my question was about the powder, and not my skill level... lol! Hornady's max load for a 180 interbond was 70.2 grians / Hybrid 100V. That's a big differance what Sierra is listing at 3.8 grains over Hornady's max load.

Thanks for the welcome BTW!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:54 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

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Yes, shes a good shooter, just trying to reach the 1500 yard mark without loading above max, if possible. Laughing

Mate, with my eyes, I cant see further than 500 meters,, scope or no scope..
I know the moon, sun and stars are round, thats about it..
My ranges are less than 150 meters.

Then again I am a subsonic shooter, so there..

300 Win Mag.. strewth.. blow my shoulder off socket it will..

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

BAD ME !!! I went back to Hodgdons website and rechecked the data. They were using a Speer 180 gr. MTSP and max was ***** 67.7 grs. *****

**** I need to start using a ruler when the bullet is at one side of the page and the lload data clear on the other side ,,, was reading the charge rate just above the Hybrid 100v that was for H4831 Sad ****


**** Am editing the earlier post and now will quietly go shoot myself ****

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

gelandangan wrote:
Spotter300 wrote:


Yes, shes a good shooter, just trying to reach the 1500 yard mark without loading above max, if possible. Laughing

Mate, with my eyes, I cant see further than 500 meters,, scope or no scope..
I know the moon, sun and stars are round, thats about it..
My ranges are less than 150 meters.

Then again I am a subsonic shooter, so there..

300 Win Mag.. strewth.. blow my shoulder off socket it will..

You just need a good recoil pad, and for shooting a lot of heavy grain bullets time and time again then a good muzzle brake helps me.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

10spotterminator wrote:
BAD ME !!! I went back to Hodgdons website and rechecked the data. They were using a Speer 180 gr. MTSP and max was ***** 67.7 grs. *****

**** I need to start using a ruler when the bullet is at one side of the page and the lload data clear on the other side ,,, was reading the charge rate just above the Hybrid 100v that was for H4831 Sad ****


**** Am editing the earlier post and now will quietly go shoot myself ****

No problem, it happens. They need larger spacing between the lines...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

Welcome Spotter! The difference in recommended charge weights doesn't surprise me since they are using different bullets. There are some good articles in the December 2012 issue of "Handloader" magazine about chamber pressure and bullet stability that you might find helpful. Different bullets' "J factors" call for different powder charges. The "J factor" is the bullet's resistance to being pushed down the bore.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

Pumpkinslinger wrote:
Welcome Spotter! The difference in recommended charge weights doesn't surprise me since they are using different bullets. There are some good articles in the December 2012 issue of "Handloader" magazine about chamber pressure and bullet stability that you might find helpful. Different bullets' "J factors" call for different powder charges. The "J factor" is the bullet's resistance to being pushed down the bore.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: Hybrid 100V Reply with quote

10spotterminator wrote:
BAD ME !!! I went back to Hodgdons website and rechecked the data. They were using a Speer 180 gr. MTSP and max was ***** 67.7 grs. *****

**** I need to start using a ruler when the bullet is at one side of the page and the lload data clear on the other side ,,, was reading the charge rate just above the Hybrid 100v that was for H4831 Sad ****


**** Am editing the earlier post and now will quietly go shoot myself ****
bud dont even joke about that......

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