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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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I was in a local gun shop yesterday just to browse and overhead an interesting conversation between the owner and a couple of patrons. They were discussing the recent factory changes at Remington and Marlin. Apparently, they moved some factories and hired new works to cut cost. The owner said he stopped ordering Remingtons and Marlins because he has been having quality problems with scope mounting holes not proper, trigger issues, etc. The experienced workers aren't building the guns anymore. He told the patrons, if you want a Remington or Marlin for Christmas, buy a used one. Anyone else heard of this?
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RePete Super Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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Yes, I heard, yesterday, that when Remington's parent company moved the manufactuing operations from Ct, they didn't take any machines nor employees, a whole new start.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
Joined: Sep 20, 2010 Posts: 2984 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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Yes I have heard the same thing, mostly with the shotguns. Since the Cerberus group bought them out a few years ago, it is said that the quality has gone down tremendously. Lets put it this way, the local gunshop will not service remington shotguns made after 2007!!
Sadly the people retiring are replaced with a newer generation who probably doesn't care as much for quality like the older generation did. Now its all about the bottom line. My 2nd oldest son bought an 870 12g 3" 2 years ago and it has been back to the factory 3 times already for repairs.
Once for broken extractor and 2 times for broken firing pin, and he does not reload and shoots factory ammo.
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Joe Boleo Super Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2006 Posts: 427 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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Sad, but true that things seem to be going downhill. Fortunately there are a lot of used Marlins and Remingtons on the used gun racks. If you want one, get one while you can. Take care...
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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Leave it to MBAs to screw up yet another good company, or two in this case.
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BigBlue Super Member
Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 1108 Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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Are Remington and Marlin the only gun companies that are owned by Cerberus?
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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The Cerberus group also owns Bushmaster Firearms.
Edit: They own a lot more. Freedom Group
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stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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Hmm...interesting! I know where my Benelli, Mossberg, Ruger, Taurus and Howa are made! Fer some reason I was never a huge Remington fan. No particular reason either. Old Deluxe stuff was nice but $$. Love the Marlin lever-gun's and features, wanna .357 too.
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BigBlue Super Member
Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 1108 Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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My Remington Model Seven is my favorite hunting rifle, but Cerberus had no hand in it.
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stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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Shootin' trap the other day- lotta old guys got some pretty wicked cool old Rem gas guns. My buddy came in with an old 20g pump Wingmaster deluxe, no rib, fixed choke, man was that thing SWEET. Shop down the street had a 20g Field Special. I had no idea what it was, looked odd with a striaght wrist- went home, researched it, came back and it was GONE. Damnit! Prolly never see one of these again. Bet if I do I'm nailing it. Remy made some awesome shotty's! Another budy has a .410 Remy gasser!
I'm kinda the odd stump out, they were never in my price range. Some of them old hand-me-downs are just too gorgeous. Guess I'm more of a fan of them than I thought. Wish my old man was too!
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BigBlue Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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I got my Model Seven used. It was a lot more affordable that way.
Don
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stovepipe Super Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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I heard that!
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Ominivision1 Super Member
Joined: Sep 20, 2010 Posts: 2984 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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Well the Freedom group just scooped up another gun manufacture. I just hope this group doesn't go belly up with so many gun manufactures under their belt.
militarytimes.com/blog...-ordnance/
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PaulS Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:39 pm Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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Well, Ruger is still independent. What other gun makers are still not covered by the umbrella of Freedom Group?
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:24 am Post subject: Re: Remington and Marlin Changes at the Factory |
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we can buy take offs of the 870 new for $399, gun city branded, not as sweet of finish as the origonal but a good solid funtional gun all the same. the 18" barreled .12ga pump is one mean wee beastie.
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