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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:10 pm    Post subject: Should he Reply with quote

pull the triger or not

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

without context its hard to judge. now if in enemy territory and the target clearly is on of the other fellas??? or there is a very strong right to left wind(trees dont look like it).
yip context is everything.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

nice scope!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

Elvis wrote:
or there is a very strong right to left wind

Strong wind at long range. I'm guessing at 4 mils high, the are around 500-600 yards away. That's 40" of lead on the one with the rifle. That would have to be almost a 20 mph direct crosswind with a .308. Not a shot I could take with consistency.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

12 inches of head at about 1/2 a mil = about 660 yards by my range calc.

2 guys with clearly visable weapons would be my first choice though - if its safe why not call in a proximity weapon. Like an air asset or Tank round.

I guess if they're bad guys and presenting a target have a go! I don't think I could do it without a precision weapon system and a lot of practice.

I have hit a 12 inch target at 1000 yards with a top of the line F Class rifle in 6.5x284 two for two. Clear still day!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

Squeeze the trigger, not "pull".
One RTA ticket on its way!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

Laughing maybe he is just designated target-passing gas!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

Its probably a Night Force scope, they are absolutely awesome, I just can't afford one; even the cheapest here in NZ are about $4K.

Thats what its all about, decent scope, decent weapon, decent ammo and a well trained operator. as you said RTA.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

I wonder..

Do any of you have a personal gripe against the guy in the crosshair?
I dont know who he is and what relation he have from the guy behind the scope,
how can any judge whether or not to shoot at a PERSON without processing any reason to do so?

I personally think it is a bad taste to display human as target on a hunting forum.

Sorry to be a party buster.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

MY MY Geland didn't mean to ofend you

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

Don't get me wrong, this does NOT offend me at all.
It is the thought of bringing the cross hair to a stranger that I do not have any reason to gripe with, do not sit well in my conscience.

Hunting and shooting are great passions of mine, so far shooting at animal has been restricted enough due to the misconception of the antis.
Now adding to that the morons that do shooting sprees without proven reason towards another human being, just because of his or her personal view of righteousness said that such and such got to die, had made my hobby of gun shooting a vile sports in the eyes of the general public.
Yeah, who gives about their bigoted opinions?
Well, those who writes the law do, and for what they are sprouting, we the innocent shooter has to pay the price!

Would you, put someone in your cross hair without proper research on the reason and without proper justification to do so?
Is that because the guy is WEARING what looks like the middle eastern garb, and thus he is guilty?
Do you know what his view to your culture is?
How to do you know for certain?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

gelandangan, I hear you. I was assuming US Army sniper on a mission where ROE apply. You post definitely addresses the topic "should he?"

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

as I posted earlier it ALL about context.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

The pic appears to be taken in Afghanistan...the apparel of the people, the construction of the wall, the way the guy in the left background is squatting, the look of the road construction, the trees in the background, the guy watching the buildings (security) and the firearm and mode of carriage all point to a Taliban "soldier". However, as Elvis says, without knowing the context, exactly what the pic is all about, where it was taken and the circumstances of why the guy is carrying, we can't make a decision.

If the pic is what I suspect it might be, a pic taken from an observation post through a scope, showing Taliban soldiers, then I don't have a problem with the pic. I believe some Sniper Team Spotting Scopes have mil-dot cross hairs the same as the sniper scope, so that is most likely what the pic is.

Another scenario is the pic is a screenshot taken from one of the many "shoot 'em up" games available today.

To squeeze the trigger or not...only the guys that took the pic are in a position to make that decision, based on the scenario. But if it is Taliban, then I think the right lead might be a tad too much and there needs be some bullet drop compensation added.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Should he Reply with quote

I too hear you GLand and take your concern on board.

Im still gonna take the shot based on my subjective opinion!

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