HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: foxtrotter
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 12455

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 84
BOT: 6
Total: 90
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Home
04: Home
05: Home
06: Forums
07: Forums
08: Home
09: Your Account
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Home
13: Forums
14: Home
15: Home
16: Home
17: Forums
18: Home
19: Forums
20: Forums
21: Forums
22: Photo Albums
23: Forums
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Home
27: Forums
28: Forums
29: Forums
30: Home
31: Home
32: Home
33: Forums
34: Home
35: Forums
36: Forums
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Home
40: Home
41: Forums
42: Forums
43: Forums
44: Home
45: Forums
46: Forums
47: Home
48: Home
49: Forums
50: Home
51: Forums
52: Home
53: Forums
54: Photo Albums
55: Forums
56: Home
57: Home
58: Forums
59: Forums
60: Forums
61: Forums
62: Forums
63: Home
64: Home
65: Forums
66: Home
67: Home
68: Home
69: Forums
70: Home
71: Home
72: Home
73: Home
74: Forums
75: Forums
76: Forums
77: Forums
78: Home
79: Forums
80: Forums
81: News
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Forums
  BOT:
01: Forums
02: Home
03: Forums
04: Home
05: Home
06: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 302
 Pictures: 2369
  · Views: 293317
  · Votes: 1299
  · Comments: 86
 

Support our Advertisers

unsafe at any speed
Discussion that doesnt fit other Topics
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » General

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
longwalker
Member
Member


Joined: Apr 12, 2005
Posts: 201
Location: Bethel, AK

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:14 pm    Post subject: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

Some of us will remember the Ralph Nader campaign to kill the Chevrolet Corvair. I'm here to start a campaign of my own. The Suzuki Forenza is a dangerous car in any amount of snow and ice. I just returned from anchorage where we rented the above mentioned car.

The good news I didn't hit anybody or anything. The car would not stop turn or go. Even at a flat intersection the car would not move forward with out some lots of manipulation of the steering wheel and engine speed. Turning was almost as bad. it was almost like the car was floating ,even at 20 miles per the car would continue in a straight line. Maybe its the geometer or its weight I don't know but stay the heck away from this kind or car if you ever experience bad weather.

We turned the car in and got a jeep. Thrifty car rental exchanged the car.

Longwalker
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
wiersy111
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 13, 2009
Posts: 2347
Location: Central Minnesota

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

Wow now that is scary. My wife had a jeep and I didn't like it in bad weather, but nothing like what you describe with the Suzuki. That is just terrible.

_________________
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America " for an amount of "up to and including my life."

US ARMY RETIRED

The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.

Being "Over the Hill" is much better then being under it!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 6970
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

tires my good man can make a heap of difference. when I first drove my escort 1600 sport on shingle it had mgs n fats. after regaining the desired direction of travel and traveling slowly to destination I switched the tyres for harder narrower ones and never had a problem again.

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
gelandangan
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 07, 2006
Posts: 5721
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

Yeah +1 on the tires.

Having flip my Mitsubishi 4WD last Christmas,
I can say that if I have a different type (more aggressive threading) the accident may not happened.

_________________
A straight line is the shortest distance between two points.
A smile is the shortest distance between two people.

The government I trust .. is my .45-70 Government.

Do - Not try!


gelandangan.weebly.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
chambered221
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Aug 17, 2007
Posts: 3439
Location: Lost for good !!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

Still trying to figure out why so many 4WD's come with standard ole street tread on them these days !!!

Don't know about all of you but I buy a 4WD because I need it !!!

_________________
Ask as many people needed, sooner or later your question will be answered the way you want it answered !!!

A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
PaulS
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Feb 18, 2006
Posts: 3394
Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

Most of the 4 wheel drive vehicles sold in the USA are never used off the road. They are purchased as "status symbols" not off-road or rough terraine vehicles.

_________________
Paul
__________________
Speer, Lyman, Hodgdon, Sierra, and Hornady = reliable loading data
So and So's pages on the internet = NOT reliable loading data
Always check data against manuals
NEVER exceed maximum listed loads
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
1895ss
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 21, 2005
Posts: 2613
Location: West of Here!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

I think Paul is right. Most Dealerships around here have very few if any 2wd pickups but most of the 4x4's sold seldom if ever are used in 4x4.


chambered I guess the thing to do when dealing on a 4x4 is to get decent off road tires put on with the deal. I know, when I was the Service Manager at a GM Dealership, that happened a lot.

_________________
A cruel truth is much more desirable than a really nice lie.
'Tis far better to walk alone than to follow a crowd or an a**hole going the wrong way.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dimitri
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 25, 2005
Posts: 5906
Location: Southern Ontario

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

chambered221 wrote:
Still trying to figure out why so many 4WD's come with standard ole street tread on them these days !!!

As Paul said, because 99% of users just need AWD not proper 4WD. And even then most people don't know how to drive it effectively anyways and end up in the ditch.

Hell most of the smaller SUV's and "Crossovers" today are just glorified car chasis with a larger body to give the appearance of real 4x4 SUV but they are not.

Dimitri

_________________
A thousand hills, but no birds in flight, ten thousand paths, with no people's tracks. A lonely boat, a straw-hatted old man, fishing alone in the cold river snow.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
chambered221
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Aug 17, 2007
Posts: 3439
Location: Lost for good !!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

1895ss wrote:
chambered I guess the thing to do when dealing on a 4x4 is to get decent off road tires put on with the deal. I know, when I was the Service Manager at a GM Dealership, that happened a lot.

I've tried that at different times !!!
Twice it was why cheaper to go to the tire dealer myself and trade in the take offs with only a 100 or so miles on them.
The last time the dealership declined to do it because the tires I wanted weren't within GM specs.......... they were one size bigger and a better tire..... wtf go figure !!!

_________________
Ask as many people needed, sooner or later your question will be answered the way you want it answered !!!

A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
wiersy111
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 13, 2009
Posts: 2347
Location: Central Minnesota

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

I was hesitant to buy my 08 Ram with the purdy 20" rims but I did the deal anyway. I will never do that again the big rims pack with snow and feels like a basket ball going down the road. The tires it came with are nothing more then an overgrown car tie, no traction in the mud or snow. But the truck drives and handles very nice on the highway.

_________________
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America " for an amount of "up to and including my life."

US ARMY RETIRED

The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.

Being "Over the Hill" is much better then being under it!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
longwalker
Member
Member


Joined: Apr 12, 2005
Posts: 201
Location: Bethel, AK

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

I'm sure tires would have made a difference. One would have thought though a typical driver in the USA would encounter rain and snow once and a while. So just supplying the cheapest tires because it costs them less runs counter to the quality thing they talk about. I wonder what else they decided to go cheap with.

I'll stick with my 1993 blazer with studded tires for winter and mud tires for the summer.

longwalker
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
44marty
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Mar 20, 2009
Posts: 775
Location: Cheshire, MA; USA

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: unsafe at any speed Reply with quote

I used to live in Jeffersonville, Vt - at the base of Mt Mansfield where Smuggler's Notch and Stowe ski areas are. Made extra cash on weekends pulling skiers' cars and 4WD's out of ditches - most of them had regular summer tires. WHAT were they thinking? What did they expect that they would be skiing on?
They spend mucho $$$ on the fully loaded SUV and then bought the cheapest tires. I had an old Willys pickup ($750) with primo tires. Guess who always got where they were going? (I cheated, though - always had a tow chain or two and a chainsaw).

_________________
_____________________________________

The strength of the wolf is in the pack; the strength of the pack is in the wolf. ~ R. Kipling

I LOVE YOU, LADY LUCK !!!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » General
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 7 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Advertisements
 


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.