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harrys Rookie Member
Joined: Jan 19, 2009 Posts: 16
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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u bet handloader i have a 99 in 250-3000 helluva whitetail rifle also ,, i have a wsm but i have the 325
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Arizona Hunter Member
Joined: Jul 22, 2006 Posts: 275
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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Handloader, I just had to comment on this old post regarding the 30.06 and 180's and agree with your data.
I shoot the now discontinued Barnes blue XLC 180. And like you, have attained 2903 fps (24" barrel) with 59.0 gr. of H4350. I didn't like 2" groups so I backed down to 2800 fps and get 5/8 to 3/4" 5 shot groups every day.
With FPS like these and a super premium bullet, I feel I don't need a 300 Mag. If I felt I needed more "power" I'd step up to a .338 Win.
Hey, how has the 327 Federal mag sold?
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Handloader Super Member
Joined: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 1032 Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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Arizona Hunter wrote: |
Hey, how has the 327 Federal mag sold? |
We sold a few SP101s and two Taurus in .327 Fed, but, the buyers are not too pleased. We chronographed their revolvers against a Ruger Single Six in 32 H&R and against a Smith in 32 Long, and while the .327 Feds were with shorter barrels and the others in 4 5/8 and 4", there was not a lot of velocity difference. For the past six months we have not received any .327 Fed handguns and I am of the opinion that they are DOA.
Now, for relevancy to this thread: I finally obtained a strain gauge! Expensive sucker. Retesting the data on the '06 will begin in a month or so, but, its challenging because the stain gauge system is difficult to switch easily from rifle to rifle. I'll post when I have data.
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moose2 Super Member
Joined: Mar 19, 2005 Posts: 707 Location: North Idaho
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Handloader Super Member
Joined: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 1032 Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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moose2: its great to have choices and I'm all for it. The 300WSM is the most successful of the series of short mags and has acquired a rather loyal following. Why not? If it is as good as an '06, it is plenty good for most anything in the Americas or Africa. FWIW, the old '06 is second only to the .375 H&H in African game cartridge popularity. If it is has any advantages over the 06, so much the better.
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9232 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:34 am Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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wow this was a very hot topic
my good shooting buddy has just sold his .270wsm after trying to get the sucker to shoot good groups for 12mths he gave up. this guy is a super padantic reloader and can really make a rifle tick. he has a tikka t3 .243 that shoots tiny wee groups that he bought at the same time so that made it even more frustrating for him .
he has brought another tikka t3 in 7mm remington magnum which is really funny to me because he sold one a A Bolt to buy the wsm in the first place.
I will stick to my std .270 thanks but this talk of solid copper or guilding metal projectiles has got me thinking that after I have used up the 90 odd 170 grn speers I have (that should be in about 70 deers time) I may try them but at 1 deer every 6 mths or so I wont be holding my breath.
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9232 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:34 am Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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wow this was a very hot topic
my good shooting buddy has just sold his .270wsm after trying to get the sucker to shoot good groups for 12mths he gave up. this guy is a super padantic reloader and can really make a rifle tick. he has a tikka t3 .243 that shoots tiny wee groups that he bought at the same time so that made it even more frustrating for him .
he has brought another tikka t3 in 7mm remington magnum which is really funny to me because he sold one a A Bolt to buy the wsm in the first place.
I will stick to my std .270 thanks but this talk of solid copper or guilding metal projectiles has got me thinking that after I have used up the 90 odd 170 grn speers I have (that should be in about 70 deers time) I may try them but at 1 deer every 6 mths or so I wont be holding my breath.
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chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:10 am Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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I wouldn't blame the cartridge .......... more than likely a bad barrel or an issue with how the gun was assembled.
Not all guns leave the factory a shooter !!!
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stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:08 am Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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Too much speed-envy!
Makes me wonder how my ol' man ever did what he did with that ol' .280 he had from up close to way out dropping stuff in the PNW like sacks of taters- plop!...or with the .30-30 he had before that!
How ever did them ol' farts do it with such slow and inaccurate clunkers!
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chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:56 am Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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Nothing wrong with a little extra speed Stovey !!!
The problem is most don't realize where and when it's needed !!!
Personally I like what the newer cartridges have to offer and wouldn't hesitate to buy one ..........should I ever have use for one.
I've actually been considering going to a .250AI simply because I think my 7mm-08 is bigger than what I need.........
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stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:21 am Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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Just stirrin' the pot ol buddy!
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9232 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:54 am Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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Im not blaming the cartridge, I just think its really funny how he has gone full circle. what is even stranger to me is the lack of need for a big cannon, as much as Im not a'. two for free' fan with the accuracy he is getting from his I would be quite confident to take longer shots with a heavyish projectile no hesitation.
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fnuser Super Member
Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 914 Location: S.W. Missouri, U.S.A.
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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250 A.I. ooh me too I was just looking at 6.5x47 and thinking the 250 A.I. would fit me better, we may need to start another thread?
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tikkat3 Super Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:08 am Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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When was the last time someone put 70grns of powder in an '06 case?
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stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: Re: The 300 WSM's lessons |
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