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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Hunters, we're just not all there..... |
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Ok, one leaves the firearm outside during cold weather hunting. That must also mean use thin oil and no grease.
What about the ammo? When I hunt elk in cold temperatures, I keep the loaded magazine in my pocket to keep the bullets warm. I loose 60 fps when the temps drop into the 20s which affects POI at longer ranges.
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eeyouelder Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 123 Location: Quebec
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Hunters, we're just not all there..... |
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The Inuit rangers were issued Lee Enfield, in 303 British, since the 1945's. A couple of years ago (2010 or 2011) they decided to change these for other more modern bolt action rifles. The rangers that I have known do not lubricate these rifles and they function very well in the extreme arctic cold.
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Aloysius Super Member
Joined: Nov 03, 2009 Posts: 2438 Location: B., Belgium
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Hunters, we're just not all there..... |
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SJ, you should watch the Google map of Belgium and try to draw a line of a mile without crossing a road or touching a building. Then you understand why we use a high seat and limit our shots to very short distances. On that place of yesterday evening I can look for several hundreds of meters, but I wouldn't dare to shoot at something on 200 m because then the angle with earth is too sharp to avoid a ricoce.
And at distances of 50 - 100 m, who cares about 60 fps losses? I'm much more concerned about hitting branches and risk the bullet would not burry itself. At these distances I could kill roedeer with a .22 LR, but the smallest caliber I'm legally allowed to use is the 222 Rem (minimum 5.6 mm diameter and minimum 820 Joules energy at 100 m).
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Grant Super Member
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9239 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Hunters, we're just not all there..... |
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eeyouelder wrote: |
The Inuit rangers were issued Lee Enfield, in 303 British, since the 1945's. A couple of years ago (2010 or 2011) they decided to change these for other more modern bolt action rifles. The rangers that I have known do not lubricate these rifles and they function very well in the extreme arctic cold. |
yip the good old SMELLY sure is a reliable old gun. she will funtion where others wont dare to tread. mud,grit, heat or cold and it will still go bang most every time.
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Aloysius Super Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:37 am Post subject: Re: Hunters, we're just not all there..... |
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Elvis, but I would appreciate it more when the locking lugs were in front of the bolt, same position as the Mauser-action...
are you shooting the .303 Br? Any loads using a lead bullet you want to share? I'm planning to try some non-sized 180 grs .308 bullets when the weather gets warmer.
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9239 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:49 am Post subject: Re: Hunters, we're just not all there..... |
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that old rear locking action is just fine and dandy, but be aware it will group different ammo in different places. havent owned an old smelly for many years but put alot of ammo through them when I was younger. Ive heard of guys having good results with .311 projectiles designed for the 7.62x39mm in the .303 brit. from my understanding the rifles will like one weight of projectile more than others and the early hunters here in NZ were using 220grn loads I believe!!! big and slow and very good on deer. millions of red deer ,fallow, pigs goats etc etc have been shot with ex military/war surplus .303 in this country back before we got all fancy and got new flasher guns etc etc it is a great calibre.
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