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Reloading Bench Mess
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

I reckon the amount of pressure transmitted would depend entirely on many factors...the calibre case being resized, the "damage" to the case when last fired (size of load), the type of lube being used, the condition and tolerance of the FLS die, the type of linkage on the press, the design of the mount and the material it is made from....far too many variables methinks for the pressure to be a static beasty.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

You sweet talkin' devil you.....I'd love it...can work wonder with that particular engine...and a small block fits beautifully in a Volvo.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

Wiersy, I made the top of my bench from a piece of 3/4" plywood then ran a 2x6 from the front of the bench's 2x4 frame to the back, under where I mounted my presses. The presses then bolt down through the plywood and the 2x6 brace. I'll try to get a pic soon.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

I guess not wiersy111. I sure don't. Never gave it any thought as I tend to build with "over kill"...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

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How about a small block 400 Chevy? I happen to have an extra one in my shed. Come and get it Vince the price will be right........... Very Happy


Hmmm......is it a 509 block ???


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What no one has any ideas of how much pressure is transferred to the bench top?

I'm of the theory that most presses are designed in a manner that most of the pressure is absorbed within and the bench is more or less just a mounting point.
In the past I've had presses mounted to less than desirable setups that worked just fine as long as they were anchored to something to keep them from moving.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

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What no one has any ideas of how much pressure is transferred to the bench top?

The "pressure" transmitted to the bench is in the form of torque. The length from the handle of the lever to the mounting point in feet times the amount of force used at the handle divided by 1/2 the depth of the base. It varies too much to give an exact number but for a typical full length sizing of a 3006 I would say that it is around 180 foot pounds with the press mounted directly to the bench at maximum pull.
More lube, loose die, soft case can all change that dramatically. I found early on that I either needed to bolt my bench to the wall or have supports that kept my bench fom rocking as I formed cases or full length sized cases. After having to leav two well built benches behind when I moved I came up with a stable portable bench design:



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

That is a picture of a friend's bench made from the plans (and modified to fit his area) but the basic design is the same. It is able to be picked up and moved through standard 36" doors in one piece or diassembled into the top, seat, and sides to be transported easily.
I have three of them in my reloading room and a couple of cabinets too. I have to build a shelf that will connect the cabinets and then it will be finished - for now.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

PaulS wrote:
That is a picture of a friend's bench made from the plans (and modified to fit his area) but the basic design is the same. It is able to be picked up and moved through standard 36" doors in one piece or diassembled into the top, seat, and sides to be transported easily.
I have three of them in my reloading room and a couple of cabinets too. I have to build a shelf that will connect the cabinets and then it will be finished - for now.


That looks like a real good design PaulS, especially like you say for mobility.


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How about a small block 400 Chevy? I happen to have an extra one in my shed. Come and get it Vince the price will be right........... Very Happy


Hmmm......is it a 509 block ???

I do believe it is a 509 block but I'm not 100% sure cause you see I had a few 400's around here some time ago and that's the only one, except for the original one that's still in my 1978 Chevy SB 4x4, that I kept. I was going to rebuild it long ago and find something to put it in, but never have. I would have to dig through the snow to get to the shed to find out. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

Don't be a digging through the snow, spring isn't that far away.....I think !!!

Ya might want to consider putting it on the market. There are still some die hards out there willing to pay for what has seemed to all but disappear !!!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

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I guess not wiersy111. I sure don't. Never gave it any thought as I tend to build with "over kill"...

There is no such thing as over kill. I ran some old 30-06 down to 25-06 last night just to see if the press moved at all being elevated..... not so much as a wiggle.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

Oh the heck with you guys and your messy benches and all the engines you have rebuilt. That's what I did for a living and hobby.

Besides...I'm in one of my better moods tonight. Wife just passed her CCW course...Kind of proud of the lady. Turned in a 15 round 3" group with my Second Generation Woodsman and a 15 round 8" group with her .38 Special Mod 10-5 2" barrel.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

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Wife just passed her CCW course...Kind of proud of the lady.

That is Great! Pass along our Congrat! More women need to follow her example.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

Bushmaster wrote:
Oh the heck with you guys and your messy benches and all the engines you have rebuilt. That's what I did for a living and hobby.

Besides...I'm in one of my better moods tonight. Wife just passed her CCW course...Kind of proud of the lady. Turned in a 15 round 3" group with my Second Generation Woodsman and a 15 round 8" group with her .38 Special Mod 10-5 2" barrel.

That's great!!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

Awesome Bushy....give the little lady a big hug from me fer doing a good job.

That's pretty reasonable shooting mate...all in the A Zone.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Bench Mess Reply with quote

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