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6.5 Creedmoor anyone?
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:48 pm    Post subject: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

Yeah, I got another rifle... Any pet long range loads for the 6.5 Creedmoor? Target or hunting. Right now I'm leaning toward Hornady ELD bullets but would love to hear about what others are using.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

By the way, my 6.5 Grendel is still in pieces in a bag...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

Pkslinger, I've been exploring 145 ELD-X in my .270 Win and 88 ELD Match in my Valkyrie. The ELD Match has been performing better than the 90 & 95 SMK. The 88gr ELD Match bullets have been very consistent in length while weight has been varying +- 0.3 grains. The SMK bullets had length variation but very little weight variation.

For hunting, the long range performance of the ELD may be hard to beat with its high BC to carry energy down range. I have not harvested any game with it but it did well in my terminal testing. If you are looking for a more lethal bullet, take a look at CavityBackBullets.com MKZs. The lead in expansion and their 3 pedals create a tri-star wound cavity that causes massive blood loss.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

Thanks Slim! Good information!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

I forgot to mention a recommendation to avoid the Accubond Long Range. Even though it is a bonded bullet, the lead is very soft and fragments away leaving just a lead coating on the inside of the copper jacket. The .277 150gr ABLR fragmented more than any other bullet I've tested leaving only a 55 gr slug which doesn't penetrate any better than a .223 bullet.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

New name for an old flavor
they called it the 260 remington
www.dailyshooting.com/...creedmoor/
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

gemihur wrote:
New name for an old flavor
they called it the 260 remington
www.dailyshooting.com/...creedmoor/

Just gonna stick with some of my tried and proven game guns.
Enfield no.4 mk1 .303 brush gun out to about 100-150 yds.
W-by mkv .30-.378 long range 400-800 yds. never have taken a shot at the 1000-yd range it was designed for.
Always used a Win. 308 of some brand or other for years ,one of my favorite all around cartridges out there.
And one of my other favorites is an old SKS 7.62x39mm ,it was my truck gun for 20+ yrs. .Killed coyotes and hawgs out to 300-yds. with that old sweetheart. That was back in the days I had better eyes.
People dream of making that long range shot , but It may happen but more than likely it will never happen. unless your shooting paper.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

I've been looking for/debating what to get recently. I'm needing a rifle that covers deer, moose, elk and black bear for a new and smaller stature shooter. For that reason I've eliminated the 30 cals, the 243 isn't my idea of a good cartridge to cover those (yes I know some have done it for years) and not sure about the 25's. Mostly been looking at the 6.5's - so 6.5x55, 260 Rem and 6.5 Creedmoor with a look at the 7mm-08 too. I'm most familiar with the 6.5x55 having shot it. Really like the 6.5's for the lighter recoil and high bc's. I don't know anyone that has a Creedmoor to ask about so am quite interested in what you guys have to say.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

Grey Wolf,when I was looking for a gun for my daughters to try deer hunting with I picked the .260 Rem, in a Ruger 77 Compact. It seemed to me the best balance of power and recoil. The girls never did get into hunting but I liked the cartridge, and gun, so much that I bought another .260 in a Remington 700.

www.huntingnut.com/ind...cle&sid=59

The reason I have a 6.5 Creedmoor now is because the rifle I wanted (Ruger Precision) didn't come in .260 and I didn't want to buy one and have to swap the barrel out.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

Grey_Wolf wrote:
I've been looking for/debating what to get recently. I'm needing a rifle that covers deer, moose, elk and black bear for a new and smaller stature shooter. For that reason I've eliminated the 30 cals, the 243 isn't my idea of a good cartridge to cover those (yes I know some have done it for years) and not sure about the 25's. Mostly been looking at the 6.5's - so 6.5x55, 260 Rem and 6.5 Creedmoor with a look at the 7mm-08 too. I'm most familiar with the 6.5x55 having shot it. Really like the 6.5's for the lighter recoil and high bc's. I don't know anyone that has a Creedmoor to ask about so am quite interested in what you guys have to say.

I recently bought my wife a Savage 110 with an adjustable LOP stock. She has short arms, so she struggled to shoot anything with a "standard" LOP. It's not the original Accufit stock they announced at SHOT earlier this year. It came with a Bushnell Engage scope (suitable for pounding tent stakes in my opinion, but she likes it) for just under $500.00.

It's chambered in .270 Win. We've put around 70 rounds through it so far, and I've been pleasantly surprised with the lack of recoil from it.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:39 pm    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

a .308 winchester loaded cleaverly wont recoil anymore and will give option to go either light or heavy very easy... I poke 125grn loads through mine and they gentle enough for smaller shooters..... the other end of spectrum sees a 180grn load....IF you dont push that too fast they are VERY pleasant to fire....more a shove than a boot..... fellas are using 110grn barnes type loads out of short barrelled carbines fast and using them to 300 yards on red deer...... just another option to consider....... you said bear.....so haveing some potent 180grn loads further down the magazine would be good life insurance...for moose or elk the same applies.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

Grey Wolf....please do ONE thing for me......get out an older reloading manual and look in the back section (or use pointblank) and punch in/look up some real world figures...the 6.5x55mm numbers will do just go up or down as needed to make them fit what you expect the grendal to do NOT what the B.S. hype says it will do...... the numbers dont lie..... a certain weight at a certain speed = a certain amount of energy the B.C. is not too hard to get/figure out
this one has been adopted big time by the must have new thing brigade and being light recoiling it suits the hug myself shooting style being adopted by so many lately...the CLAIMS of its suitability for long range use are laughable to anyone who looks past the hype and can read numbers on a page...
Im NOT saying people who know what they are doing and how to shoot CANT use it and get good results BUT its no elephant gun or even a 7mm mag.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

www.ballisticstudies.c....5x55.html this will give you a good place to start,the bit on the partition in particular is very relevant.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:47 am    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

Pumpkinslinger wrote:
Grey Wolf,when I was looking for a gun for my daughters to try deer hunting with I picked the .260 Rem, in a Ruger 77 Compact. It seemed to me the best balance of power and recoil. The girls never did get into hunting but I liked the cartridge, and gun, so much that I bought another .260 in a Remington 700.

www.huntingnut.com/ind...amp;sid=59

The reason I have a 6.5 Creedmoor now is because the rifle I wanted (Ruger Precision) didn't come in .260 and I didn't want to buy one and have to swap the barrel out.

Thanks for the link. Good read. I'm thinking it'll boil down to just finding the right gun and take whatever cartridge it comes in
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: 6.5 Creedmoor anyone? Reply with quote

Elvis wrote:
https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/6.5x55.html this will give you a good place to start,the bit on the partition in particular is very relevant.

Thanks Elvis. Not sure what all you were getting at in the second post - I got confused. I do want to stick with the 6.5's as they are generally lighter recoiling without worrying about loading down. The 140 grain should be fine for up to moose and bear at reasonable distances with a Partition or A-Frame type bullet. Around here 300 yards is a long shot and bear would be on a bait. I will hand load for this, I don't but factory rounds generally, so can get the best out of whatever cartridge I get. Like I said to Pumpkinslinger it'll likely end up being whatever cartridge the gun comes in when I finally find a suitable one. Oh yeah, one thing I left out before - it has to be a lefty Sad pretty hard to find. Was looking for used but not finding much. Seems most that I've found so far are 243's, 300 fill in the blank mags or 223's. Even new they are few and far between though I did find a Tikka in a Creedmoor......
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