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ElyBoy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

I'm impressed!!!
Nice shooting, and welcome to the Forum.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

Welcome Butcher45! Nice lookihng rifle there. Ummm, did you know that your yard is leaning...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

Nice shooting! Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

Nice Shooting and nice Air rifles BUTCHER45 Welcome to the HuntingNut sit and stay awhile Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

Hey all,

This is my fist post here; I can't believe it took me this long to find this forum!

I have become an airgun fanatic since I first heard about the PCP airguns (known as "the Dark Side" in airgunning) about a year ago. Since that time I have acquired two PCP airguns.

I have an AirForce Condor with a custom .25caliber kit from TimW at custombrakz.com. This is my purpose-built varmint rig.

It puts out a 31grain pellet at about 1100fps, and is going to the range this weekend for 50yard accuracy testing off the bench. I have no doubt it will prove to be extremely accurate considering the Match grade LW barrel.

Then I got the "Boomstick". My SamYang .45 modified for power by Leroy Roduner. It puts out 240-250fpe with pellets from 142grains to 262grains.
I plan on using this .45 for close-range (75yards max) coyote hunting, and have taken an exotic ram with it using a 250grain slug@650fps. It is WAY to much for a rabbit, maybe a headshot. Does the trick on nutria quite nicely with a body shot.
I only had time to shoot two quick groups the last time I punched paper with the .45, but as you can see it is pretty accurate. These 35 and 50 yard groups were shot off of the steady stix from a seated position using 150grainers, and a fixed 4X32mm scope



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

Bill,

Those are some big air guns, but are legally considered firearms in Canada cause they are over 500fps and defenately have enough energy to meet those specs as well. Shocked

Eric,

I don't post bad links like Ben did. Laughing And only "bad" links I may share is ones that need to be marked "NOT WORK SAFE LINK" Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

I'm afeard to hit that "link" Dimitri.

I know what you young guys are capable of doing around here. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

Perhaps some of you have heard about "big bore air rifles". Seems to be getting more and more popular. One of my sons has gotten into it big time over the past several months.

These folks basically consider anything over .308 caliber a big bore, but I believe from my limited discussions with my son and looking at some of the air rifle web sites, the bores run from around .22 up to 20mm (yes, I said 20 mm).

These things use compressed air at something like 3,000 psi and develop up to 500 ft lbs of energy or more. They definitely are not your average Daisy Red Rider!!

My son recently killed a fallow deer doe at around 55 yards with one shot. The deer ran about 40 yards after the shot and fell over dead. Others have taken wild hogs, rams, deer and even bison with them.

While I don't personally think I am interested in getting one of them, if you have a desire to check into it more, here are some links.

Hard Core Big Bores

BGMF Airguns

Big Bore Bob's

Quackenbush Air Guns

Air Gun Forum

Some good pictures and videos of animals taken with this type of rifle are on these sites.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

I have a Gamo Hunter that will pick off squirrels across my back yard. My experiences with pellet guns comes down to quality rifles and just as important is the quality of pellets. High end pellets make all the difference.
Even my open sighted rifle will cleanly make a head shot at 50 feet. It sits by the back door with the pellets on a shelf above just for those occasions.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

Well done 'Mitri, once again you come through with the techo stuff.

Cheers, Vince

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

FN19 not sure what specific model you have but if you go to:
www.falcon-airguns.co....ameset.htm

And go to "Accessories" you'll find the manuals.

S410 TDR Manual:
www.air-arms.co.uk/PDFS/TDRISS1.pdf

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

can anybody help me locate a manual or parts diagram for a falcon fn19/ also could anybody give me any info on the s410tdr ie fac limit as just purchest 1 recently. if anybody can help on any of these i would be very greatfull.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

swr19 wrote:
can anyone me help me get a little more from my fn19? accuracy is not a problem, it just lacks a bit of grunt. Do u really gain that much from a heavier pump spring? or is there anything else i can
try? Confused

Welcome to HuntingNut swr19. Grab a brew and pull up a stump and sit awhile.

I'd think long and hard about putting in a stronger or heavier pump spring. I put one into my old unknown brand of air rifle and I ended up with a bulge in the cylinder down near the chamber end. Shocked I'd be looking for an air rifle expert...either a gunsmith or someone who shoots air rifle target competition...and getting some knowledgeable advice.

You could very easily trash your air rifle if you aren't careful. Might be a good excuse to purchase an air rifle with more oomph. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

can anyone me help me get a little more from my fn19? accuracy is not a problem, it just lacks a bit of grunt. Do u really gain that much from a heavier pump spring? or is there anything else i can
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Air rifles Reply with quote

speaking of cleaning an air rifle- less is more.
Don't use a cleaning rod down an air rifles barrel as the riflinf is soft and shallow.

Use a pull through or a bore snake with the bristles clipped short in a 22 or there is a and air rifle .177 version of the bore snake with no bristles.

DON'T GET ANY OIL IN THE CYCLINDER or you will cause the cyclinder to act like a diesel engine and thats bad --mmmkay.

You don't want to scrub all the lead fromthe bore because it will only have to be deposited again before the rifle will settle down and shhot again.

A couple of feltex pellets a minute, tiny miniscule fraction of gunk out or similar on a pull through from the breech end whats out for the o-ring seal a couple of clean patches and finish with a couple of feltex pellets and you are done.

Ususal stuff for the woodwork
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