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H&R and New England single shots
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

I have a Ultra SB2 223 and have had problems ejecting. Bought it in 2000. The rifle is well balanced and shoots well so I hate to get rid of it. Has anyone had any luck polishing the chamber?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:15 am    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

I have an Ultra in .223, and I have had problems with the remanufactured Black Hills stuff sticking with 5.56 NATO cases. My thoughts on this are the internal diemensions of both cases with the NATO being a bitt smaller and with a full .223 Rem load then the pressures would be alot higher. OF course I have never nor do I plan on using 5.56 NATO in it per the booklet of Instruction, I actually read this one all the way through. I have also had some problems wiht a ploymer cased cartridge called Spectra(?) it stuck too but not mearly as bad as the NATO brass with .223 charges. I would really like to get a .45 Colt barrel for it to go along with my Blackhawk. Maybe some day I will. As a sidenote I really liked the ballistic tip bullets in my .25-06(M77R) somewhere around 85 or 87gr. They did a number on a Wyoming antelope at 75 and 100yds. Was using H414 somewhere in the upper middle range of the load ladder. Dad said it was most amazing wound channel he has ever seen and he has shot deer with just about everything in a shoulder fired platform you could think of, short of a belted magnum, and granted the little things are not very big but still very impressive performance. Oh and yes it was the varmint bullet, should clarify that. THe best part about gettign my Ultra was that it was partly paid for with my work service gift certificate for ten years, $100 to Cabela's. Oh yeah!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

well the dirty barreled 25-06 earned its keep in this house ,lol
put 2 deer in my freezer one on opening day and another the next day. bot shots were over 150 yrds and performed gr888,both broke sholders and bullets stopped on other side under the skin ..
still not gonna clean htis rifle just yet ,lol Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

ok first of all this lil rifle hates a clean barrel (an omen ) ,lol
every time i clean the barrel it shoots all over the target @ 100 yds. about the 10 or 11th round it goes back to zero ??( figure this one ) i never had a rifle to do this in 40 yrs shooting and reloading for 25 yrs .
so any advice as to whats happening and if there is a cure for this ?? (dirty barrels easy ) ,lol
bumfuzzed in teXas (i think ) ,lol
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

Surprising little guns arn't they Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

i have tested about 30 loads in this rifle , so far no sticky cases ,even at near and max loads . no complaints , works gr888 ,lol
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

You might check with H&R, but I think you are out of luck.
The ejector type will only stick at the worst possible time. We have 7 days where we can hunt either sex and on the last day a doe and buck walked out on me at about 50 yards.I shot the buck (looking back, I should have shot the doe), the doe had no idea where I was, I went to reload and the case stuck. By the time I get my rod out of the back pack the doe heard me and was gone. So you might just want to learn to live with the extractor, I hear that it is a lot more positive at removing the case.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

i am haveing no problem with this rifle , tho i would like the ejector type of extractor better for faster 2nd shots also...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

Sometimes,if you take a bore mop and a patch with some Flitz or JB paste on it and hook it up to a drill, you polish the chamber. If the chamber is not perfectly clean they will hang up. Your friend must have an older Handi, the new ones have extractors that are suppose to correct that problem. I like the older ones with ejectors, makes for a faster second shot, if it ejects.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

A friend of mine owns one in .223 and its a good shooter. The only problem he has had with it was the ejector fails to remove the spent case if the load is a little to warm. And the only rounds he put through it that did that were some factory Winchester stuff. Go figure.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

whoooeeeeeee found my load Very Happy
49.5 grains of imr 4350 powder with a 117 grn hornady btsp stuffed on top got me 1/2 to 3/4 groups at 100 yrds yeaaahaawwwwwww im ready now Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

ok , i got some 117 grn hornady btsp interlocks
will load up some and head to the range this week sometime Very Happy
any pet loads with IMR 4350 would be welcome, knowing not all rifles shoot the same ,neverless it will give me a starting point to work up to safely...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

Did you try putting a "O" ring under the forearm? Place the O ring between the forearm and the steel lug that you screw the forearm to. this will float the barrel. You also might have to shoot it a few more times to break in the barrel. My 243 took a couple of boxes before it started behaving. Let us know how it goes.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

well... i finaly got that 25-06 nef handi rifle.
i`ll say this ,it does not like remington brand bullets in 100 grn or 120 grn. shoot both at 4-5 in groups @ 100 yrds , Sad
so im going to try some hornady 117 grns in interlocks. 'any info guys ????
ive cleaned it good and checked barrel , all seems to be in the right place Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: H&R and New England single shots Reply with quote

Just remember to full lengh size the brass. Neck sizing results in stuck fired cases that are a pain to get out in the field.
When you get it clean it first especially the chamber. Also clean the grease that is packed in the ejector spring. That causes poor extraction also.
There is some NEF info at this link:

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