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Fat1Bear Rookie Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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Can anyone tell me how to break in a new rifle barrel?
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hunterjoe21 Super Member
Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Posts: 1486 Location: Miles City, Montana
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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There are as many opinions on this subject as there are shooters and barrels. And as many variables too.
Here's what I do:
Shoot it.
Clean it when it needs it.
Shoot it some more.
Start over.
Hope this helps!
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Handloader Super Member
Joined: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 1032 Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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To understand one POV on breaking in barrels, go to the Krieger barrel website and review their information. IMO, following a good breakin proceedure can have advantages in the accuracy and the cleaning of a properly broken in barrel. Kreiger tells you why.
FWIW, Krieger is the top barrel in competition today.
IME, whether button rifled, hammer forged or cut rifled, barrels that have been broken in carefully can be examined before and after for results with a good bore scope when you look at the rifling at 20X. There is a difference. But, regardless of one's position, there is nothing I can think of that is negative about using a good break in process.
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Fat1Bear Rookie Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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Thanks I really appreciate the feed back
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Joe Boleo Super Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2006 Posts: 427 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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Welcome to the Forum.
Most of my guns were bought off the used gun rack so someone else broke them in. They shoot just fine.
I agree with hunerjoe21, clean them, shoot them and clean them. Take care...
Joe
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1895ss Super Member
Joined: Jul 21, 2005 Posts: 2612 Location: Not Here...!!
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hunterjoe21 Super Member
Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Posts: 1486 Location: Miles City, Montana
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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I'm not tryin to make light of the question, I think that for the average hunter, or an average shooter, shoot-it-and-clean-it, serves well. If the question was coming from a competition shooter, well, I guess he'd already know the answer.....
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Fat1Bear Rookie Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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Man I did not know that this was such a touchy question. Heres another one. I wonder If the bullet weight would come into question? I have 30.06 rounds in 110gr to 168gr that I have loaded. Would bullet weight and heavy or light loads make a difference? I've been loading pistol ammo for over 20 years and just started with rifle rounds. In all my pistol barrels break in was never mentioned. I just wonder why?
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SwampFox Super Member
Joined: Jul 15, 2005 Posts: 1040 Location: Destin, Florida
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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The problem with this question is that it gets down to what you yourself believe. Some barrel makers say that their barrels will never be better than the minute they roll out the shop door and firing a round through them leaves 1 less round in the barrel's life. Other barrel makers say a good barrel should be treated with care and broken in properly for the best performance. So the barrel makers themselves do not agree and I have spoken to a few about this very subject when I was the industry director for a national shooting orginization.
I have shot in competition for many years, put on many championship matches and have been the match director at four world championship matches. I watch and listen a good bit. I also shoot pretty good for a half blind, old fat man. One thing that I noticed is that every champion shooter has a ritual and I do not recall any champion shooter that I have ever met or heard of, that does not break in a new barrel before starting a new season with that new barrel. Now I am not talking internet expert shooters or gun writers that do not know crap from Crisco.
Most casual shooters do not understand that when you learn the basics, develop the load and get the sight settings for that load, 98% of every shot after that, is just a mental process. So Handloader is 100% correct. Even if it does no good to break in the barrel, it does no mesurable harm either and if it is your preperation process, by all means do it. But if you think it helps, it does, simply because you think it does.
I break in all of my barrels except the shotguns. I use the same process I use Sweet Shooter and follow their reccomended prep process. This is their site. If you have never tried it I suggest you give it a try with a new barrel or with an old barrel stripped of all copper.
One point about the SS process; I do not use a stainless steel brush in my guns. I use a bristle brush to wet the bore.
www.sweetshooter.com/
Oh, they seem to have some lab test data that supports barrel prep.
Ed
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hunterjoe21 Super Member
Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Posts: 1486 Location: Miles City, Montana
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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Oh hell...
20 rounds and a wet brush aint so bad...
I've seen some "break-in" procedures that claim you're not ready to start using your barrel 'til 100 rounds are through it...
Here's Krieger's version....
www.kriegerbarrels.com...wp2558.htm
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Deleted_User_2665 Super Member
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 380
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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Fat1Bear wrote: |
Can anyone tell me how to break in a new rifle barrel? |
Clean it real darn good before firing the first shot....
Then shoot it...........
Very easy.
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Joined: Feb 07, 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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so.....
just when is that new howa showing up?
yak at ya later, ed.
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gunrac Rookie Member
Joined: Feb 26, 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Central Ohio
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:56 am Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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.New here also, but seen an opportunity to add my 2cts. to this thread. IMO, you just spent good money on a new outfit. Why wouldn't you want to do what is recommended?
I recently purchased a new Savage. 22-250. I followed there break-in to the T. I consider it more as seasoning the barrel, as it got easier to clean with each step.
I have only shot just less then 50 rds. and have already figured out it was going to be a dirty gun. By that I mean it shoots better with several rounds thru it w/out a brush job.
I have no intentions of cleaning this gun with less then fifty rds. unless it is going to be stored. Even at that it will only get chemical's an patches. It will not see a brush until 200+ rds. or if it starts shooting weird.
My 3 shot groups really started coming together after 5 sets dirty at 100 yd.
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gelandangan Super Member
Joined: May 07, 2006 Posts: 6397 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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Hi Ya gunrac..
nice to see someone who looks like me
is that me or your target is upside down? Nice group tho
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Morax Super Member
Joined: Dec 18, 2006 Posts: 618 Location: Pittsburgh Pa
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Breaking in a new rifle barrel |
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barnes has a good write up from one of thier guys on the subject
www.barnesbullets.com/...-bullet-n/
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