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45/70 cases too short to crimp
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp Reply with quote

1895ss wrote:
Welcome liberty4u2. I use a Lee Factory Crimp Die to crimp my 45-70 cases and it does not matter what length the case is. I also think they are much easier to use and quicker to set up and do a better job. Oh by the way, I think the die costs something like $15 or $20 in the U.S.

That is a damn fine idea mate...never gave that a thought, but you are totally correct...case length is not an issue with the FCD. I'll give meself a bag full of uppercuts for missing that one.

Still...make sure all your cases are the same length for consistency.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp Reply with quote

wiersy111 wrote:
Prairie dogs would be great fun with a 45-70.

Yes I have had a lot of fun shooting gophers with mine. They disintegrate most of the time. Very Happy

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That is a damn fine idea mate...never gave that a thought, but you are totally correct...case length is not an issue with the FCD. I'll give meself a bag full of uppercuts for missing that one.

Still...make sure all your cases are the same length for consistency.

Cheers, Vince

No need for uppercuts Vince, besides you might open up those stitches and I hope that's healing nicely. Smile I use the FCD on my 35 remington (Marlin 336) as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp Reply with quote

The Lee Factory crimp die probably would solve the problem . As for the Dies , It is Hornady that is making the brass shorter for that bullet , so I would call them as ask if they have a crimp die for the shorter brass.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp Reply with quote

Good morning all, Went to local gun store over the weekend. The kid at the counter stared like a pig poisoned when I asked about anything besides AR's. I love AR's too. But, I need Buffalo bullets! He said he'd try to get me a Lee crimp die(LCD). After he said "what cal. was that again", for the third time I figured I better get it myself. So I ordered it right from Lee less than $20.00. Now for some molds- a 300gr and 405 to get started. Almost got some from Lee but I have some in .357 already that get too hot too quick so I'll get RCBS. Those Hornady cases are growing a little but they will separate before they ever get to trim length. So I'll be needin more cases too. Hee-Haw! this gun is fun though! Of course I don't see many Buff's these days but I know where some mighty big woodchucks roam so I'm "plannin a hunt" for the late spring. Seein how we eat what we kill I don't want to be vaporizing them but in the name of science a few may have to go to Coyote supper. I imagine a well centered hit with a big load will indeed vaporize one too. Startin to think cowboy hats. Is this a sign?:<) Any advice and/or helpful hints will be appreciated. Thanks again
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp Reply with quote

You never do experiments with other dies? When I reload .45 ACP on my Dillon, the last step is the bullet-seating-die-with-innerparts-removed of a 7x64. It gives a nice tapercrimp + removes that dent the bullet makes on the thin walls of the .45 ACP case.
I never tried it on the 45 Government (don't need it with a Ruger N°1), but it could also work, or with the bullet-seating-die of a .270 Win, a .280 Rem or a 30-06.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp Reply with quote

When you're not rich, it helps to be clever. It's even enough when you know which clever friend to ask such things..... Words to live by Thanks Aloy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:08 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp Reply with quote

Actually Al, I'm not sure if your askin' me or tellin' me. But, no, never swapped out parts in dies except for rnd vs fl nose bullts in pistol loads. I don't load those ctgs. except 45ACP(on a dillon). Anyway, I bought the die now. sides, Not so sure a taper crimp would be enough to hold a full throttle 500+ gr hard cast. Don't wanna find out either... Quick subject change- What is best size for pictures. Probably use picnik to resize. Like to be able to post pics if needed. After much fiddling I got an Avatar up. I'm not real good with `puter's. Thanks. Anybody shooting the Hornady 350 gr round nose bullet in their 1895's?. Still a little nervous about a magazine tube full of hotties goin off in my hand. Startin' to notice a bit of recoil as I work up. Thinkin' some 405 to 500 gr loads are gonna be fierce. Hee- Haw! After reading about some of the loads from hell that can be worked up I'm looking forward to some serious fun this summer. Alas, being far from rich, if I want something bad enough, I will work as hard as I can to attain it. And... I want a Buff! Have a great day folks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp Reply with quote

liberty4u2

If you want to post a picture, click the "post reply" button and a screen will open up and you have all kinds of options.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp Reply with quote

Liberty wrote:
Quick subject change- What is best size for pictures. Probably use picnik to resize. Like to be able to post pics if needed.

Liberty...I downloaded this from the web (its FREE) and it is all I use to resize my pics that I load on here. I "right click" on the pic, go to Prish, then resize the pic to "640" and it saves a copy as a VGA. It is a simply "powertoy" for Windows and is not at all difficult to use. If I can use it anyone can mate...I'm as dumb as a box of hammers. Very Happy Laughing

Prish Resizer

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp Reply with quote

liberty4u2 wrote:
Thanks. Anybody shooting the Hornady 350 gr round nose bullet in their 1895's?. Still a little nervous about a magazine tube full of hotties goin off in my hand. Startin' to notice a bit of recoil as I work up. Thinkin' some 405 to 500 gr loads are gonna be fierce. Hee- Haw! After reading about some of the loads from hell that can be worked up I'm looking forward to some serious fun this summer.

Yep I use the 350 gr hornady round nose all the time. Here's a target from when I had a scope on my 45-70.



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