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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

GF, weekends only. Dang fine cook too. Crunchy tacos Sat night, cant friggin wait!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

Chamber does stir the pot! I don't lap rings. I use a single base to reduce the need for the lapping procedure.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

Slim, The most time I've put into lapping a set of rings was with a 1 piece base.......don't kid yourself !!!

I've also seen them that takes very little time if any at all with a 2 piece base.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

I usually mount the bottom half of the bases then rest the scope on them to check and see if there is any mis-alignment. If there is none, would you still lap?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

Misaligned rings can't always be seen by the eye !!!
I always lap them and have never found them not to need at least a little clean up.

Just as a side note when using the Leupold standard bases that have the windage screws. I keep a cheap scope on hand that I've centered the cross-hairs in. I use this scope to get everything centered up and tightened down with the aid of a boresighter then lap the rings.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

Lap the bases? Lap the rings? Ya mean if I lap my Redfield two piece bas and rings I can get this hunting rifle down to 1" spread at 200 yards instead of 1 5/8" spread?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

Ya only lap the rings !!!

Bushy, you were a mechanic right ???
Where you one of those guys that would use the closest fitting standard wrench on a metric bolt ???

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

Mechanic [master marine/industrial diesel]. Yup...Had three sets of tools. SAE, Metric and Wentworth. I flat don't believe in "one size fits all". I only had one set of "adjustable spanners" and they were metric.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

Then you should understand that the end results may not mean a better outcome, only that the job was done correctly.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

I learned that if I will not arrive at a better finished product not to mess with it. "If it ain't broke don't fix it"... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

chambered221 wrote:
Just as a side note when using the Leupold standard bases that have the windage screws.

I lost all respect for Leupold windage scope bases after my experience with a rifle I bought that had them. You can't remount a scope and keep its zero. I have no understanding as to why anyone would need windage adjustment in the scope mount. In my situation, even though I was using a torque wrench, I start to get my POI shifting left and right. Turns out the screw head was about to break off. Thumbs DOWN!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

Hey Stovepipe, Nice bit of gear mate, and in an excellent caliber too! Like Slimjin & Vince i also use Allen head screw for everything where ever practical. Even in the past on all my bikes, especially the Trumps & Harley, as i can't tell you how many times i lost my number plate off the H.D. And yes, Loctite is also used sparingly & kept in my tool box. In an emergency, a bit of enamel paint also works well as a thread sealer!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

Well you've got me, never done, may try it.
What is the best method? Lapping that is.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

I use this one.......only method I know !!! Lap tool

Here's a Video from Larry !!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: Rings.... Reply with quote

Thanks Chambered, the video explains it well
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