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Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!????
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

Well it might be fun to start something. My slug gun is an old 3-shot 20 ga Mossberg bolt action smooth bore. It was my father's and I cut the barrel down. I rigged up a scout scope mount on it and it shoots foster slugs pretty good, especially Brenneke. I can achieve minute of deer accuracy with it so a rifled barrel should shoot better then mine. We could have an accuracy contest.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

I have noticed the wind can push the slug around pretty good (bad) compared to a centerfire rifle at 100 yards.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

My old crappy Mossberg 500 12 gauge won't shoot as good as Joe's, but it will shoot 7/8"" groups at 100 yards with 2 3/4" Winchester Supreme Partition Gold sabot slugs. It has some recoil, but I've never felt it when firing at a deer....

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

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And most Ive seen are crap for accuracy.


wtf That statement could start a whole lot of arguing in some circles !!!

And it looks like I have started something dont it? Very Happy

wtf I'm a betting this isn't the first time you've done a little stick poking !!!

By the way.......How's the hand ???

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

My tactical shotgun which has an 18.5" barrel with Rem, 2-3/4" slugs hits my 12" x 18" targets pretty much center mass, off hand at 75 yards... and kicks like 2 mules.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

one thing we learnt real early on about shooting the 12ga. do not fire it prone unless absolutly necessary. the recoil has nowhere to go eg your body cant move backfrom the force so you feel it all. a fence post to lean over or sitting is heaps better.these new steelshot loads kick a heck of alot more than the old lead we used and we have adapted to that.but I tell you there is no way I will be shooting a 3" steel prone unless its unavoidable.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

Hand is doing good. The constant sharp pain has subsided to just an occasional dull ache. The "plaster" comes off in alittle over 2 weeks.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

wtf Y'all sounding like a bunch of wimps !!! Viking Ain't nuttin like a good 1ounce slug or 2oz's of #5 plated turkey smashers !!! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

Ah....Chambered young mate....the older ya git, the better ya used to be mate.

Me, I don't mind a bit of recoil...lets me know I'm still alive and kickin'.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

If I remember correctly... I calculated the recoil of my Mossberg 835 with 3.5" turkey loads and found that it was the same as the .416 Rem Mag rifle I was thinking about. I don't mind some recoil but its no fun to get belted out from under your hat!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

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I don't mind some recoil but its no fun to get belted out from under your hat!

Nor getting a black 'n blue shoulder
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

ok these stats are old but still pretty close. .270win 130grn rifle 8lb recoil16.88ft pounds.
.458win 510grn rifle wieght 9.5lbs recoil60ftpounds
12ga 1 1/4 oz game load gun wieght 7 3/4lbs recoil 30.8lbs
as I previously stated 12ga recoil is not too bad but not good prone as the force has nowhere but into your shoulder to go. I dont recall ever hearing of anyone dumb enough to fire a big bore rifle prone either!!! I guess it wouldnt be pleasant.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

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:wtf: Y'all sounding like a bunch of wimps !!! Viking Ain't nuttin like a good 1ounce slug or 2oz's of #5 plated turkey smashers !!! Very Happy

Try some 3 1/2" Winchester Supreme XX Magnums (2 1/4 oz. of #5 shot @ 1150 fps) outta a Benelli Nova. I HAVE fired it prone (only at a turkey) and still didn't feel any recoil. Only time I noticed the recoil while firing at a bird, was when I hadda twist WAAAY around to my right and shoot. I ended up with my shoulder up tight between the tree and the stock. THAT hurt!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

After mounting scopes on friends slugguns, and sighting them in for them, and doing it at the gunshop, I much prefer a 44 magnum rifle/handgun to deer hunt with. cheaper, easyer on the shoulder and pocket book.
I have a slug gun but rarely use it. It has the slug barrel on it for my sons use. (he loves recoil) Very Happy Hes young though Smile , when I was young I didnt mind recoil either, after I broke my back, recoil, rideing motor cycle along way, ATV rideing, horse back rideing.......Ect. bothers me alot. After a day of goose unting, I could not get out of bed the next day. After fireing a full box and most of another 3" federal steels I HURT. Sad Call me what you want.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? Reply with quote

hunterjoe21 wrote:
Try some 3 1/2" Winchester Supreme XX Magnums (2 1/4 oz. of #5 shot @ 1150 fps) outta a Benelli Nova.


Been there done that......With a Maverick !!!

IMO the 3 1/2 offers no real advantage in turkey hunting.

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