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popgun Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 735 Location: Mitchell, GA, U.S.A. (2007 pop. 191)
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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I would support a "Current Legislation" forum section that informs our members of legislation that affects us as hunters, shooters, and gun owners. Even then it should be strictly moderated to be kept on topic and not a forum for those that have the constant urge to bash any particular politician that happened to get elected due to poor thinking on many voters parts. See how easy it is to backslide. We already know that our current President is anti gun and there is no need to rehash that one fact day after day. What would be pertinent is each and every gun, hunting, shooting, range and ammo bill that he introduces or supports be posted for our forum members so that we as a group can start letter writing campaigns to our legislators.
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OntheLasGallinas Super Member
Joined: Aug 23, 2007 Posts: 1042 Location: South Texas
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:00 am Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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Chris,
A current gun legislation forum is a good idea, although it might be hard to hold it on track. There are those of us who blow off a little political steam by sneeking in a comment every now and then. I've always tried to limit my political comments to one post and refuse to get drawn into an agrument that nobody is going to win.
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lesterg3 Super Member
Joined: Nov 30, 2008 Posts: 1328 Location: Dixie
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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Dallan., I agree with most, that the General section is a good spot for Political discussion, debate, and what have you.
I'm still new here and have posted more than my share for what I will call ALERTS.
I am a staunch Conservative, and at the least I want to try to alert folks to what is going on. If I have offended anyone I apologize, but I will not stop. Things in the US are topsy turvy now, and I believe that everyone must know what is going on.
In the General Forum the heading of the post should tell people what the post is about, and they can either read, or not read. You know, if you do not like what on the TV change the station.
But, as things are the way they are now, I believe that we must all be aware and do what we can to support/defend our Rights.
_________________ "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine. "--Thomas Jefferson
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -- Thomas Jefferson
"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."--James Madison
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Dimitri Super Member
Joined: Nov 25, 2005 Posts: 5944
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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popgun wrote: |
What would be pertinent is each and every gun, hunting, shooting, range and ammo bill that he introduces or supports be posted for our forum members so that we as a group can start letter writing campaigns to our legislators. |
I agree, best also cut out any SHTF, TEOTWAWKI, and similar "Red Dawn - Head for the hills" and "Government/Economical Collapse" type talk. Which seems to get in the way of REAL issues people who share our hobbies face such as anti-gun and anti-hunting legislation going the way side to talk about "what ifs".
Dimitri
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ElyBoy Super Member
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 1541 Location: Forest Lake Minnesota
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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Right on Dimitri.
This goes right back to my original post about the SHTF topics.
Eric
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English Mike Super Member
Joined: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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I moderate on a couple of other firearms sites & TBH dedicated political forums seem to attract a certain type of person who rarely posts elsewhere & appears to have little interest in the REAL reason for the site's existence.
I voted no.
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BigBlue Super Member
Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 1108 Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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Just a suggestion, but possibly a RTKBA Second Amendment only forum would fill the bill and still limit political discussions to those that are related to the subject that has brought us all together, namely our love of hunting and guns.
Don
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diesel Member
Joined: Nov 20, 2007 Posts: 90 Location: Watsontown Pa.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:23 am Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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me too, Vince, but only 19 votes? gotta be more of us than that.
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11390 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:07 am Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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And it was the "I don't care"'s that got obama elected...
I think "Haven't a clue" is a better title...
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 2965 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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BigBlue wrote: |
Just a suggestion, but possibly a RTKBA Second Amendment only forum would fill the bill and still limit political discussions to those that are related to the subject that has brought us all together, namely our love of hunting and guns.
Don |
That sounds like a pretty good suggestion
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lesterg3 Super Member
Joined: Nov 30, 2008 Posts: 1328 Location: Dixie
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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Bushmaster
I voted "I don't care", but I voted that way because I am willing to go along with what the majority of members want. Not because I don't care. Nor did I vote for any Democrat, including the messiah Obama. It's just that since I am new I don't think that what I think should carry as much weight as the those who have been posting for years.
Since I joined I have written probably more than my share of political related postings, and am feeling somewhat paranoid that folks are tired of listening, as English Mike had to say
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I moderate on a couple of other firearms sites & TBH dedicated political forums seem to attract a certain type of person who rarely posts elsewhere & appears to have little interest in the REAL reason for the site's existence. |
Further, in other postings both English Mile and Vince have told us what they have lost, and what the anti-gun/hunter lobbyists have accomplished in their respective countries.
In my defense I have posted several other questions about reloading and hunting, and this was and is my primary reason for joining.
Ultimately, I think anyone who is a hunter or shooter of any kind needs to be aware of what is going on, if they really love the sport they will be interested and do all they can to help protect these rights. But, I sense that some folks here don't share my passion for protecting those rights.
As some said if they know what the forum is about they can avoid it.
I wholeheartedly agree with ElyBoy, and Dimitri, that we don't need a politician bashing forum, a SHTF, or HTTH's. But, honestly believe that if we stick our collective heads in the sand, and do not do our part to protect these rights little by little they will erode away. Big Blue's idea is good with me too.
This is one great site, and even though I don't know any of you personally, I find that everyday I look forward to reading what you have to say on all topics.
Anyway, since I do respect y'all I am willing to go with whatever Dallan decides. With the exception of booting my butt out.
_________________ "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine. "--Thomas Jefferson
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -- Thomas Jefferson
"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."--James Madison
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
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ElyBoy Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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You are a fine person Lester.
I just want you to be happier.
Yes, the "other side" is in control, but I believe that they are good Americans, and they think what they are doing is right for America.
I may disagree, but I respect their opinions and the Citizens of this Country who voted them in.
Eric
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vint2 Super Member
Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 1216 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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This can be a good thing as long as we only use it to express our opinions and not to read people off. This may well keep it out of the rest of the forums so those who don't like it can stay away. There are opinions out there that I strongly disagree with but I will fight like a mad man to make sure they can be stated.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
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vint2 Super Member
Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 1216 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Request for a politics forum survey |
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Mike, are you sure that is not just an honest difference of opinion?!?!?!?!!?!??!
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