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"Black" Gun Recommendations
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Pumpkinslinger
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

Well, what brand is it?!?! Wink Looks good!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

Ahem.. does it came in Pink?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

You are one sick puppy Gelan...I like ya mate. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

I see you bought the Bushmaster over the Rock River !!! Shocked

Congrats on your purchase.

Shooting Now go burn up some ammo Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

Chambered, I was thinking "Dern! He's GOOD! How does he tell the brand like that?" Then I looked at the pics again and saw the logo...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes I like to think I'm that GOOD !!!
No, really I didn't see that logo Nananana
Yea !!! I'm that GOOD !!! ROFL

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

I had given up on the idea of getting one (seems like something else is always more important) until I found this one in the used gun rack at a local shop. I didn't know when I posted the link to Bushmaster's website that the Dissipator had been discontinued, but when I found this one and actually put it up to my shoulder, I had to get it. I don't think it had more than 200 rounds through it when I got it, and so far I've put only 50 through it myself. It still had the cleaning kit in the buttstock, but the kit had never been used. Now I gotta get a Harris bipod to mount to it...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

Nice, I have bin gettin the itch for a bushmaster latley my self Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

Vince wrote:
You are one sick puppy Gelan...I like ya mate. Very Happy

Cheers, Vince

I'm not inclined in that way Vince..
but I am positively green (or any other color) with envy..
Us average Aussies can only look and fantasize, while our brothers and sisters across the pond
can OWN, touch and play with them nice colorful
(every color under the sun as long as it is black) toys... Sad

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

Yeah mate...I know...frustrating ain't it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

It's even bloody worse over here mates. Sad

Good thing I'm back over to the US in less than seven weeks for some hunting & a "little" range time with the FAL, L1A1 & Pistol Shooting Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

Buy the Rock River! Mine is a A4 elite. It came with carry handle but I removed it for now.



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

let me see if i read this right. .223 and 5.56 nato are not the same??? I have a .223 zastava and have used military rounds with no problems also norinco rounds no problems. they are hotter than my reloads but shoot to similar impact. I was givin some mt cases had milatary origins and use them to reload with again no problems. some of these have loose primer pockets so I guess they were pritty hot.the ball rounds were used to shoot wallabies cause they were cheap.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

The 5.56mm NATO is loaded with a thicker case and to higher pressures then the commercial 223Rem. As such it has a longer leade to compensate giving the pressure only when needed to seal the chamber then the pressure drops.

This can cause pressure spikes in a 223Rem firearm that may lead to a failer of the firearm.

However from how I understand it the 5.56mm NATO is still in the "safe" range for the 223Rem in MODERN firearms and that many more firearms marked 223Rem are actually built on 5.56mm NATO chambers anyways. Your mileage may vary however.

If your really worried about it get your gunsmith to open up the leade of the chamber a bit with a modified 223Rem/5.56mm NATO chamber reamer like many ARs use.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: "Black" Gun Recommendations Reply with quote

thanks Dimitri that clears it up a bit I guess leade is another term for throat eg the part just in front of chamber before rifling starts?

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