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Plated bullets
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

The bullets I shoot are boxed as Frontiers, but the guy I buy from sells them as Rainier. He assures me that it's the same company.

Anyone else come across this ???????

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

O K...I got 'em shot up. Now all I have to do is computate them, log them, pick all the damned tics off me and post them...Probably this evening...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

Bushie,
They tell me that if you just let the ticks feed they will go away by themselves?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Never tried that, it don't seem quite right to me!!!!!! I hate vermin!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

Wonder right on down...I'll set you up in some right fine tics. You can try that theory.

Don't bother me...I'm almost through with my computations and I'm up to 8 tics...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

We have our own share of tics, but we run a herd of cats to collect them!!!!! Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

O K...Here we go...

9mm X 19 M43 Firestar...3.39" barrel
124 grain Rainier PHP (Plated Hollow Point)
Power Pistol
WSP primers
Federal cases (nickel)
Pact One Chronograph

All below information is derived from three strings of five rounds each, averaged.

4.8 grains
AV...895.7 Hi...912.3 Lo...881.0 ES...31.2 SD...9.1 AD...8.8

5.0 grains
AV...951.2 Hi...960.3 Lo...937.1 ES...23.2 SD...9.7 AD...7.5

5.2 grains
AV...969.5 Hi...989.3 Lo...947.6 ES...41.9 SD...16.6 AD...12.6

The 4.8 grains turned out the best. I will tweek it to see if it improves. I will post the best target later.

.45 ACP Colt Series 80 modified with Wilson parts. 5" barrel
185 grain PHP
Power Pistol
CCI 300 primers
Speer cases (brass)
Pact One Chronograph

7.0 grains
AV...853.3 Hi...872.4 Lo...833.8 ES...38.6 SD...15.7 AD...11.9

7.2 grains
AV...879.2 Hi...901.0 Lo...860.1 ES...40.9 SD...16.1 AD...12.0

7.4 grains
AV...912.7 Hi...929.0 Lo...898.8 ES...30.0 SD...11.4 AD...7.9

The 7.2 grains was the better one here and we will see what a bit of tweeking will do for it. The target was what determined the best string average.

The temperature was a humid 85* with no wind (I'm in the trees).



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

Now the targets...

These two are the best of the lot and are the ones that determined what powder charge, bullet, primer and case worked the best.

These were shot at 25 yards and are printed on 8 X 11 typing paper...



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

Very good info there Bushmaster, thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

Bushmaster,
How big is the black area of those targets?
What range were you shooting at?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

Bushie,
That is good shooting!!!
Do you use a rest, as such , or just the top of your bench??? How did the ticks make out??? Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

Pauls...The outside circle is 7". The black dot is 3 1/2". And 25 yards...

That blue contraption on the table is my rest. I'm cheap (Scottish heritage). I asure you I am not going to shoot through my chronograph off hand...Didn't you notice the inexpensive (cheap) case trap on the right side of the photo too?

I made that handgun (bench) rest years ago. It turned out to work pretty good, if I hold my hands real still, that I never replaced it...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

Bushy,

Try using W-231 with the .45ACP, and watch your groups tighten.

I'd put money on the 231.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

That's what I plan to do...First we will complete the Power Pistol first...Plan on trying WSF too...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

Pumpkinslinger wrote:
Thanks RePete, but what bullet weights?

Oops!

9mm = 147gr FP

40S&W = 180gr CMJ

45ACP = 230gr CMJ RN

I've edited the original post too.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Plated bullets Reply with quote

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