HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: smitty3855
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 2
Overall: 12622

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 268
BOT: 2
Total: 270
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Home
04: Forums
05: Forums
06: Forums
07: Forums
08: Forums
09: Forums
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Forums
14: Forums
15: Your Account
16: Forums
17: Your Account
18: Forums
19: Forums
20: Photo Albums
21: Forums
22: Forums
23: Forums
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Forums
27: Forums
28: Forums
29: Forums
30: Forums
31: Forums
32: Forums
33: Forums
34: Forums
35: Forums
36: Forums
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Forums
40: Forums
41: Forums
42: Forums
43: Forums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Forums
47: Forums
48: Forums
49: Your Account
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: Forums
53: Home
54: Your Account
55: Photo Albums
56: Forums
57: Photo Albums
58: Forums
59: Forums
60: Forums
61: Forums
62: Forums
63: Forums
64: Forums
65: Forums
66: Home
67: Your Account
68: Your Account
69: Forums
70: Forums
71: Your Account
72: Forums
73: Forums
74: Forums
75: Forums
76: Forums
77: Forums
78: Your Account
79: Forums
80: Forums
81: Forums
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Forums
85: Your Account
86: Forums
87: Photo Albums
88: Forums
89: Your Account
90: Forums
91: Forums
92: Forums
93: Forums
94: Forums
95: Your Account
96: Forums
97: Forums
98: Your Account
99: Forums
100: Forums
101: Forums
102: Forums
103: Forums
104: Forums
105: Forums
106: Forums
107: Forums
108: Forums
109: Your Account
110: Forums
111: Forums
112: Your Account
113: Forums
114: Forums
115: Forums
116: Forums
117: Forums
118: Forums
119: Forums
120: Forums
121: Home
122: Forums
123: Forums
124: Your Account
125: Your Account
126: Home
127: Forums
128: Forums
129: Forums
130: Forums
131: Forums
132: Forums
133: Photo Albums
134: Home
135: Photo Albums
136: Your Account
137: Forums
138: Forums
139: Forums
140: Forums
141: Forums
142: Forums
143: Forums
144: Forums
145: Your Account
146: Forums
147: Forums
148: Forums
149: Your Account
150: Your Account
151: Forums
152: Forums
153: Forums
154: Forums
155: Forums
156: Forums
157: Forums
158: Photo Albums
159: Forums
160: Forums
161: Forums
162: Home
163: Your Account
164: Forums
165: Forums
166: Forums
167: Forums
168: Photo Albums
169: Your Account
170: Forums
171: Forums
172: Home
173: Forums
174: Home
175: Forums
176: Your Account
177: Forums
178: Forums
179: Your Account
180: Your Account
181: Forums
182: Forums
183: Forums
184: Your Account
185: Forums
186: Home
187: Forums
188: Forums
189: Forums
190: Forums
191: Forums
192: Your Account
193: Forums
194: Forums
195: Forums
196: Forums
197: Forums
198: Forums
199: Your Account
200: Your Account
201: Forums
202: Photo Albums
203: Forums
204: Your Account
205: Forums
206: Forums
207: Forums
208: Your Account
209: Forums
210: Forums
211: Forums
212: Forums
213: Forums
214: Forums
215: Forums
216: Forums
217: Your Account
218: Your Account
219: Forums
220: Forums
221: Forums
222: Forums
223: Forums
224: Forums
225: Your Account
226: Forums
227: Forums
228: Your Account
229: Forums
230: Forums
231: Forums
232: Forums
233: Forums
234: Forums
235: Forums
236: Forums
237: Forums
238: Statistics
239: Forums
240: Forums
241: Photo Albums
242: Forums
243: Forums
244: Forums
245: Forums
246: Your Account
247: Home
248: Your Account
249: Forums
250: Forums
251: Forums
252: Your Account
253: Your Account
254: Forums
255: Forums
256: Forums
257: Forums
258: Forums
259: Forums
260: Forums
261: Forums
262: Forums
263: Forums
264: Forums
265: Forums
266: Home
267: Forums
268: Your Account
  BOT:
01: Forums
02: Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 305
 Pictures: 2361
  · Views: 439872
  · Votes: 1310
  · Comments: 86
 

Support our Advertisers

Stuck case
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Mbogo
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Dec 19, 2007
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Stuck case Reply with quote

Hi,
I have been reloading 375 H&H for a few months now. I wanted to reload 270 Wiinchester and attempted it a couple of weeks back using Hornady dies (New) and got the very first case stuck. I somehow got it out and tried again this weekend with the new spindle etc (that I had wrecked earlier when getting the stuck case out Sad )and the same thing happened. I made sure the case was lubricated, including mica for the neck.
I have ordered a stuck case remover from Hornady. But I am not sure what is going on.
Thanks
Jas
Back to top
View user's profile
Doublejs
Member
Member


Joined: Nov 29, 2007
Posts: 137
Location: SW Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

What type of lube are you using? Is the bottom of the shell ripping off or what? Was the brass new or once fired? Is the die set right?
I prefer the spray lubes. And be aware that to much lube will mess things up also.
I have only had a couple cases stuck in many years of reloading, but almost every one was a mag caliber that was loaded to the max. (e.g. case had expanded when shot)
Defenitely get the case remover, mine was from RCBS as that was the press I was using. It is excellent and works great.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Bushmaster
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Posts: 10566
Location: Ava, Missouri

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

Doublejs...I've had problems using Hornady's One Shot on .30-06 cases. One out of every 5 or 6 will stick in the sizing/decapping die. Didn't have any trouble with .30-30 cases. I have sense relegated the One Shot to rocking chair squeek duty...

Mbogo...Welcome to this fine site. We will solve your problem. If not me...One of the others...So pull up a stump and grab a beer...

That said...I use the RCBS lube and pad and have never had a stuck case with it. .30-06, as you know, is about the same as .270 cases and you may be having the same problem I was having with One Shot. Doublejs is correct when he said that too much lube isn't good either, but you will have to determine what is too much lube for your cases. I lube the hell out of mine and watch for lube dents on the shoulder. That's were the first sign of over lubing will show up. So lube them good and look for dents on the shoulder. If they start to show up, clean your die by wiping the access lube out of the die and use just a tad bit less lube until it goes good for you...Incidently...The dents, other then not neat looking, won't hurt the case. Just load it and shoot it and the dent will disappear.

A lot of people read to not over lube the case, but never say what is "over lubed" and end up under lubing the case...By The Way...I use the RCBS lube inside the case neck too...

_________________
I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...

DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote...
Back to top
View user's profile
shrpshtrjoe
Super Red Neck Member
Super Red Neck Member


Joined: Jan 26, 2005
Posts: 2955
Location: Maryland

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

Bushmaster had a good point about lubing the inside of the case neck it makes a difference. Tell us a little about your procedure and I'm sure we can help, and welcome to the HuntingNut Very Happy
Joe

_________________
"MOLON LABE"

P E T A
People Eating Tasty Animals
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Doublejs
Member
Member


Joined: Nov 29, 2007
Posts: 137
Location: SW Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

Bushy,
I use RCBS Case Slick, never tried any other or had the need to. I don't know if One Shot is the same as Case Slick. The Case Slick is a light oil (like WD-40, but doesn't have the same smell as WD-40). Anywho, whatever works for you...as we all know, what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Smile
I also agree w/ Bushy on the lube dents.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
wncchester
Member
Member


Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 160

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

Seems a lot of folks are suddenly sticking cases lately. The problem does not come from failure to lube inside or outside of the neck nor from "hot' loads. Stated pure and simple, sticking cases comes from insufficent lubricant on the thicker lower part of the case. That's where the most sizing pressue is needed and that's where the lube must be well applied. Learn to feel the extra pressure needed to stick a case too, backing out and re-lubing before it sticks is the best system of all! Very Happy

There's really no need to damage the decap/expander rod when pulling a stuck case. Before drilling/tapping, screw the decapper UP as far as you can get it to go but not jammed hard into the neck. That usually gets the rod clear of the drill and tap.
Back to top
View user's profile
Vince
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 13631
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

Gidday Mbogo...as Bushy said mate, grab a beer and pull up a stump.

If you can mate...a couple of pics of the cases, dies and a stuck case might help to cast some light on the problem.

Now don't be offended, but I can't help askin' the obvious question...Are you using the correct dies and/or shell holder for the calibre? Its happened before mate.

Cheers, Vince

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Pumpkinslinger
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007
Posts: 4489
Location: NC foothills

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

Since it was the first case through the die I'd check the die and spindle pretty good. Something could be cut wrong.

I haven't used much of it but when I first tried the One shot on some .30-06 cases it was a little sticky. I then flushed the inside of the die with some degreaser and, after it was dry, shot a little of the lube in there. After that it worked fine for me. I've been using some Dillon spray-on lube for years (seems a little lasts a LONG time!) but am considering switching over to the One Shot because its a little less messy.

_________________
Mike

"I ain't no better than anyone else, and there ain't no one better than me!" Ma Kettle

Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Mbogo
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Dec 19, 2007
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

Thanks for the many replies. I use the One-shot spray-on lube by Hornady, and I just put "enough", just the same as I was doing for the 375s. I also lube the inside of the neck with mica. The cases were all new. And, yes the rim just tore off from the bottom on the return stroke of the reloader. I am also using the correct case holder (Hornady #1) and the box says 270 Winchester on it. On the up stroke itself I felt a great deal of resistance at the very top of the stroke. Should have stopped there I suppose!! I have not checked the diameter of the base of the cases yet. I will also post a picture later today.

Thanks
Jas
Back to top
View user's profile
FALPhil
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Posts: 377
Location: Dixie

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

I always lube the inside of the sizing die itself before I start the sizing operation.

_________________
The Wicked Witch of the West is alive and well and serving as the Speaker of the House.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
English Mike
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 08, 2007
Posts: 1317
Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

Try Imperial Sizing Die Wax - the reduction in effort needed when compared to other lube's I've tried (RCBS & Lee) is quite noticeable.
Rolling cases on a lube pad guarantees the lower part of the case is covered.
Check to make sure they polished the inside of the die; it's not unknown for this step in the manufacturing process to be missed occasionally.
Back to top
View user's profile
PaulS
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Feb 18, 2006
Posts: 3546
Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:06 am    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

You need to lube a new die before putting it into service.
I would make sure there was adequate lube on the body of the case and if they don't want to go stop and find a better lube. You can buy a quart of 15w-40 Mobil 1 cheaper than you can buy most case lube and it will last a lifetime. I use Mercon V for my cases that I full length resize. Most of the cases I reload I am using carbide neck sizing dies - no lube at all.

_________________
Paul
__________________
Speer, Lyman, Hodgdon, Sierra, and Hornady = reliable loading data
So and So's pages on the internet = NOT reliable loading data
Always check data against manuals
NEVER exceed maximum listed loads
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
jeh7mmmag
Member
Member


Joined: Dec 24, 2006
Posts: 222
Location: DFW, TX.

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

Try some Kiwi mink oil boot wax. Just like Imperial Sizing Die Wax and a large can $3 will last a lifetime.

I always clean my dies before starting with Laquer thinner and polish the inside with steel wool on a dowel rod and drill, and prelube with a long ear swab. Also polish the expander while it is out.

For the inside od neck I used a small cup of #12 bird shot with mica mixed in. Just stick the neck in the shot and it is lubed.

_________________
mypva.org/
DAV
VNE USS LEX CVT-16 BLUE GHOST V2 CATS ABE-2
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Crackshot
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Oct 23, 2005
Posts: 1693
Location: Mich

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

As was said, Check the die. I have had 3 size dies from Hornady that were not correct dimensions and had to send them back. Also I use Imperieal size wax when I size my 375 H&H cases. They are tough to size new or not. The impereial wax is easy to apply and does not hinder your reloading in any way.

_________________
The human mind is the weapon, the gun is just one of its tools.
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Doublejs
Member
Member


Joined: Nov 29, 2007
Posts: 137
Location: SW Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Stuck case Reply with quote

Crackshot, did Hornady say anything when you sent them back. And was this a 3 piece set of pistol dies or 3 different sizing dies? Just curious...

I have always bought redding or RCBS dies, no prblems so far (knock on wood)
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition
Page 1 of 4
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Advertisements
 


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.