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Blackpowder
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

hunterjoe21 wrote:

In what ratio are they mixed?


2 parts 70% Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol

2 parts 3% Hydrogen Peroxide Solution

1 part Murphy's Oil Soap

Pour ingredients together but do not shake the container. I get a good mix by gently pouring the mix back and fourth between two containers. The soap will foam up and create a mess if shaken.

Store the mix is a darkened plastic bottle if you want a good shelf life...you can ued an old brown plastic peroxide bottle.

It seems to have a pretty good shelf life if stored in a dark container, but I shoot a lot so it gets used up.

You can save the used stuff and reuse it again...but why, the ingredients are dirt cheap.

Near as I can figure Remington sells this same or similar stuff at a gross mark up and calls it Vortex Bore Cleaner...............
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

Looks like something to try!!! Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

Vint,

Didja get to the range yet?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

hunterjoe21 wrote:
Vint,

Didja get to the range yet?
Yepper, Joe, I sure did and I have some more work to do!! I changed over to small rifle primers and now have a group at 150 yds, but need to fine tune my load and see what works the best. As soon as
I get everything settled I will give a report and try to show some target pics.
When I make a change I will use a different target each time to show results of each change. Right now I am using Winchester small rifle primers and 100 grain, by volume, fffg Triple 7. Need to get some other primers to try and see what difference I get. Will also try some heavier powder charges.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

I looked at the local W-Mart.....

Loose 777 @ $28.99/lb

Pyrodex @ $24.99

Pelletized 777 100 pcs (33 rnds w/ magnum loads or 50 rnds with standard) @ $26.99

Pelletized Pyrodex 100 pcs @ $23.99

It makes me wonder how many primer/powder/bullet combo's some folks can afford to try ........

I've been shooting 270 gr. Platinum PowerBelts, which are at $23.99/15 (W-Mart has them on "SALE" for $19.99 for their special 12 pack)

Anyway........Lemme know what works for you, It might help to reduce costs associated with 4 ML rifles.......

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

You betcha!! Will keep you posted!! Try a gun show in the area for supplies as it can be considerably cheaper!!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

Sorry it took me so long to get back!!! I am using 777 fff 100 grains equivelant. Come to find out I have a loose stock and need a cheek piece on my stock so I can get onto my scope properly. Once I get those problems squared away I will go for the accuracy load and see what develops!!! Smile Also need to find the formula for a home brew cleaner that was posted and don't remember the ratio of materials. It uses alcohol, hydrogen peroxide and Murphy's Oil soap. Embarassed

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

wildswalker wrote:
hunterjoe21 wrote:

In what ratio are they mixed?


2 parts 70% Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol

2 parts 3% Hydrogen Peroxide Solution

1 part Murphy's Oil Soap

Pour ingredients together but do not shake the container. I get a good mix by gently pouring the mix back and fourth between two containers. The soap will foam up and create a mess if shaken.

Store the mix is a darkened plastic bottle if you want a good shelf life...you can ued an old brown plastic peroxide bottle.

It seems to have a pretty good shelf life if stored in a dark container, but I shoot a lot so it gets used up.

You can save the used stuff and reuse it again...but why, the ingredients are dirt cheap.

Near as I can figure Remington sells this same or similar stuff at a gross mark up and calls it Vortex Bore Cleaner...............
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

Thanks , Wildswalker!
Have made aand used the stuff all ready, but did not write it down and forgot the formula. I will try and print this off and see what happens! I am still trying to get zeroed and think it has to do with needing a cheek piece so I get a consitent sight picture. Hope to get it all cured SOON!!!! Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

vint2 wrote:
Come to find out I have a loose stock and need a cheek piece on my stock so I can get onto my scope properly. Once I get those problems squared away I will go for the accuracy load and see what develops!!!


When I went back and re-read this entire thread, one other thing came to mind. I had accuracy issues with my Encores until I replaced the hinge pins with slightly oversized ones. The factory units are designed for easy removal, and as such, allow some "give" at the CRITICAL barrel to receiver joint. Any variations in pressure applied to the cheekpiece will impact POI dramatically. I believe your ML is also of the "break-action" design, so you may want to check for any "slop" at the point where the rifle hinges.

Edited with this after further thought:

My rifle rest is of the 2-point ("Y" yolk front and "U" yolk rear)contact type (Outer's Varminter). I suppose that some of the flex could be eliminated by using sandbags that support more of the rifle, or by switching to a higher quality rest.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Blackpowder Reply with quote

Thanks, Joe, will check it out!! I have made some changes, but have not fired the weapon again, so as soon as I get some time I will get it on the range again. Will keep y'all posted!!:)

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