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Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why.. Reply with quote

Mebbe I missed it somewhere here but I'm wondering why there's no mention of what OSHA (Occupational Health and Safety Admin.) tried to do to our 2nd Amendment Rights as Free Americans...??

Not aware?

Didn't bother anyone?

Mid June OSHA announced a proposed rule change that would have effectively shut down the small arms ammo and reloading component industry in the U.S.

The NRA-ILA didn't know a thing about it and didn't respond until the 3rd of July....

By then a HUGE grass roots campaign had been launched by gun owners via the internet, mail and telephone.

Public comment to the proposal was supposed to end on the 12th of July but we got it extended until the 10th of September......

Due to the sheer volume of opposition to this beaucratic proposal to reclassify small arms ammo, smokeless pwoder and primers as High Explosives.....OSHA has decided to stop, back up and rewrite the proposal, latest news as of yesterday......

Keep on the look out for the new rewrite as the driving force behind this backdoor attack on the 2nd likely was noone other than Hilary Clinton, Barak Obama and Co.,......who all sit on the US Senate OSHA oversight comittee....

Keep your guard up folks, that rule change could have led to the failure of the industry due to the cost prohibitve requirements of compliance with OSHA and shut down our Sport.....

Back door Gun Ban.......

Vigilance friends....................
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

It was posted here on HuntingNut along with a ton of other websites:

www.huntingnut.com/ind...light=osha


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

Yes, DallanC, and I was really glad to seeit was posted here!!!! Smile
We need to do alll we can to stop these kinds.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

Wasn't looking for it there, my bad.

Thanks for everyone's help............
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why.. Reply with quote

This issue certainly caused a lot of firearm owners to read the preamble to the Declaration of Independence carefully. It raises issues that should be resolved before situations arise.

At what point is disobedience to the law justifiable? At what point would you choose to invoke action against tyranny?

Another good read --- "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross. Now, here was a guy that made a decision.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

Well, some people say it's unpatriotic to question your government, I say it's unpatriotic to not question your government....

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

In a democratic form of government the government is obligated to "redress grievances", so its citizens are obligated to let those grievances be known to the elected officials and DEMAND JUSTICE!!! One must remember that there is a difference between a legitamate grievance and just complaining. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

Vint....I agree, but just to play the devil's advocate, it becomes a slippery slope when your "just grievance" to me is "just a complaint" and vice versa...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

"Aye, lad, that's where the rub comes..." That is the question, is it not? Who decides a just grievance and by what standards??? Confused

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why.. Reply with quote

a while back i recall hearing something about some guys sitting around complaining about taxes.... wasnt it about tea or something like that? no wait it was gasoline, no wait it was on property you already bought... no wait... the government whipped us into placated sheeple who wont raise up against them, because of the laws they put into place to cover thier butts
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

I went to college...briefly, LOL, but I digress. Start over, I went to college with this French Canadian guy and we were pretty good friends for awhile. He openly stated to anyone who wanted to listen (most didn't) that he believed in the separation of Quebec from the rest of Canada. Since I was a bit of a proponent of the separation of the rest of Canada from Quebec in those days, I listened. So what Tracker? blah blah blah. He used to quote this statement quite often, about liberty...."Your rights begin exactly where my rights end."

That sounds great and profound at first, but on closer examination, IMHO, of course, is only partly true, but it does provide some food for thought.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

All of these points are what allow the pols to get by with the chicanery that gives them excessive power!!! The only rights they are concerned about are their own. Sad

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

Well, the one quote I tend to agree with I think the most, I learned from Keetowah, Will Rogers apparently once said we should be thankful that we don't get all the government we're paying for. I definitely believe that ...probably 99% of the time, less government is better.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

Yes, and even at that we get a lot more than we want or need!!!! Mad

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Did everyone miss the near Total Gun Ban, Wondering why. Reply with quote

tracker wrote:
Well, the one quote I tend to agree with I think the most, I learned from Keetowah, Will Rogers apparently once said we should be thankful that we don't get all the government we're paying for. I definitely believe that ...probably 99% of the time, less government is better.

I have never heard that quote but it sure is 100% on the money !
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