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Mod. 94, Winchester
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

I have a slight problem with my Mod. 94. I am missing the Finger Lever Pin. I found one, and it's on the way, but I can't figure out where the pin went. I'm real careful when cleaning and disassembling my guns, and I can't believe I lost that pin. Anyone familiar with this gun and the pin I'm talking about? The rifle has a scope mount on it and one of the screws that holds it on is also the finger lever pin stop screw. Which I normally would not take off while cleaning. That's the only way the pin comes out. But it's gone, I hope it didn't break and fall inside the action or something. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

I have my Center fire manual in front of me, open to the mod 94 and I have found the "lever pin" and the screw that retains it. But not the "finger lever pin". Could you be more specific? Maybe a photo of its location?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

In my book they call it a Finger Lever Pin.
Firearms Assembly 1,
Here's a site you can see a pic. of the part..no.23
www.e-gunparts.com/pro...20STANDARD
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

Glockman55...One...It won't go there and two...It keeps giving me a virus warning (Norton)...Got another way?

I'm thinking that you are refering to the pin that the "link plate" pivits on. My ol' Jack Handle has a screw under the plate and newer models have a screw on the side of the receiver (lower front of the receiver). Am I close?

By the way...My reference is The Gun Digest Firearms Assembly/disassembly Part IV Centerfire rifles 1980 and a 1949 .30 WCF Mod 94

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

Bushy here's the pic Glock was trying to show you.



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

Sorry it works for me. the pin goes in the left side of the reciever and helps hold the firing pin in, a screw holds it in.
www.e-gunparts.com is a good site you can find about ant part for any gun made. You might have a firewall blocking you from opening it.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

There you go...part 23
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

If it is the same part #23. We are on the right track. Simple...Not sure what the problem is. You align the link plate with the holes and insert the pin and install the stop screw. If you are dealing with an old one like mine the pin will have a groove in the middle for the stop screw that is inserted into the bottom of the link plate. Install the pin and install the screw making sure that the groove is aligned with the screw hole in the bottom front of the link plate. Did I get lost? Or....Hey...I'm trying here. With the rifle infront of me there isn't much I haven't done with this ol' Jack Handle.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

I haven't got my pin yet, that was what I was saying, some how the pin is missing, and I couldn't see ant way it could have came out with the screw in. I understand how it goes back together, my 94 was made in 1972, in 30/30 cal. I guess my question was is it possible for this pin to break and fall out somewhere else. can't figure out where it went.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

It's a pretty heavy pin and I doubt that it would go anywhere you couldn't see or find it in the gun. The pin that is listed Part #23 isn't even close to the firing pin which is in the bolt and held in by a friction pin (Press fit).

I think I'm lost here. You sure you installed the pin in the first place? Oops...Wrong thing to say. Right?

Pin Part #23 is the Link plate pin that holds the lower plate that has the lever and the bolt block attached to it.

Have to go feed the horses. Back later.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

What happened here? Everyone went to feed horses??

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

I wish I had horses to feed!!!!!! Smile

But Glock, I fingered if any one could hep ya it wood b Bushy. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

As the pin slides through the breech bolt and the finger lever it holds the firing pin from sliding out of the end of the bolt. there is a notch out of the bottom of the firing pin and that's where the lever pin holds the firing pin in. Now I'm confused. and I never had the pin out of my gun, that's why I wonder what happened to it. The only thing I did was take the scope mounting bracket off one time and put it back on, at that time the pin must have fell out and I didn't notice it. I don't use this gun much at all, that's why it took so long to notice that there was a problem with it. What I noticed was when I racked the lever open the firing pin slid out the back of the bolt, that's what started me looking into what was going on. as I read up on it I learned all this about this gun, and I'm still learning. I haven't fully disassembled the gun yet, I'm waiting for the parts I ordered before I do. I just wondered if any of you guys ever had this problem with this mod. gun before. Damn I need a Beer.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

Oooooooh, according to the illustration I can't see how #23 has anything to do with your firing pin?????? Shocked

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Mod. 94, Winchester Reply with quote

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Key Number Item Number Description
1 267790B Rear Sight Elevator, 3C
2 267860B Rear Sight Assembly - Includes (2) Rear Sight Binding Screws, Rear Sight Blade
3 267880C Rear Sight Binding Screw (2 Req'd)
4 267910C Rear Sight Blade
6 294550C Front Sight Cover, Carbine
7 268120 Front Band*
7A 268150 Front Band (Uses #8A Screw)
8 268170B Front Band Screw, Non-Tapered
9 931430 Barrel, .30 WCF, 100th Year Commemorative
9 705040 Barrel, .30-30 Win, 18'', Round - New, Factory Original, Blue Steel
9 705030 Barrel, .32 Win Spec, 20'', Round - New, Factory Original, Blue Steel
10 273770 Magazine Tube
11 262010-01C Magazine Follower
12 800100-05X Magazine Spring
13 274330 Magazine Plug Screw
14 274420 Magazine Plug
14 949860 Magazine Plug, Rounded W/ Slotted End, Blue
16 277250 Rear Band, Carbine
17 277430B Rear Band Screw
19 301100 Cartridge Guide, .44 Mag, Left
19 301110 Cartridge Guide, Left
20 301160 Carrier Spring
21 301220 Cartridge Guide, .44 Mag, Right
21 301190 Cartridge Guide, Right
22 301260 Finger Lever Pin Stop Screw
23 301280A Finger Lever Pin
24 301290A Link Screw
25 301330 Cartridge Guide Screw (2 Req'd)
25 301310 Cartridge Guide Screw, .44 Mag (2 Req'd)
26 260100D Sight Plug Screw, (4 Req'd)
27 301350 Carrier Screw
28 301290B Hammer Screw
29 301430 Carrier Spring Screw
30 301440 Spring Cover, .44 Mag
30 301450 Spring Cover, Brass Plated
30 301460 Spring Cover, Plain
31 301470 Spring Cover Screw
32 317710 Carrier, .30-30
32 301480 Carrier, .44 Mag
33 301490A Tang Screw, Upper
34 301500 Breech Bolt W/ Extractor & Pins
34 949850 Breech Bolt W/ Extractor, Short 1 1/4'' Ejector Type, Blue
35 301510 Extractor*
36 301520 Extractor Pin (2 Req'd)
37 949830 Ejector, Short, 1 1/4''
38 301570 Ejector Spring
38 301590 Ejector Spring, .44 Mag, Inner
38 301600 Ejector Spring, .44 Mag, Outer*
39 301610A Ejector Stop Pin
40 301620 Firing Pin
42 301670A Buttplate
43 301710A Buttplate Screw (2 Req'd)
44 301730 Hammer (Above Serial Number 4,580,000)*
45 301750 Hammer Spring Guide Rod (Above Serial Number 4,580,000)
46 318080 Hammer Spring
47 301950 Trigger Stop Spring (Above Serial Number 4,580,000)
48 301960 Trigger Stop
49 301970 Tang, Lower (Above Serial Number 4,580,000)
50 302020 Hammer Bushing (Above Serial Number 4,580,000)
51 302030 Trigger Stop Pin
52 302050 Trigger
53 302060 Sear (Above Serial Number 4,580,000)
54 302090 Trigger & Sear Pin
55 302120 Link, .44 Mag
56 302160 Locking Bolt
57 302170A Firing Pin Striker
58 302220A Firing Pin Striker Stop Pin
59 302240 Finger Lever Link Pin
60 302290 Friction Stud Stop Pin, Hollow Type
60 302310 Friction Stud Stop Pin, Shank Type
61 302320A Friction Stud Spring, Hollow Type
61 302340 Friction Stud Spring, Shank Type
62 302360 Friction Stud, Hollow Type
62 302380 Friction Stud, Shank Type
63 302400 Finger Lever
63 302410 Finger Lever, .44 Mag
65 302550 Tang, Lower (Between Serial Numbers 2,700,000 & 4,580,000)
66 302590 Hammer (Between Serial Numbers 2,700,000 & 4,580,000)*
69 302620 Sear (Between Serial Numbers 2,700,000 & 4,580,000)*
71 302640 Mainspring Base (Between 2,700,000 & 4,580,000)
71 72 73 979420 Mainspring Kit (Between 2,700,000 & 4,580,000)
72 302670 Mainspring (Between 2,700,000 & 4,580,000)
73 302690 Mainspring Screw (Between 2,700,000 & 4,580,000)
74 302710 Mainspring Strain Screw (Between 2,700,000 & 4,580,000)
77 302730 Trigger Stop Spring (Between 2,700,000 & 4,580,000)
81 302780 Breech Bolt, .44 Mag, Complete
81 303010 Breech Bolt, Complete
82 302880A Ejector, Standard, Complete
83 303070 Tang, Lower, Complete (Above Serial Number 4,580,000)
83 303100 Tang, Lower, Complete (Between 2,700,000 & 4,580,000)
84 303140 Locking Bolt, Complete
85 303180 Link, Complete
NI 880560 Aperture Rear Sight, One Hole
NI 949840 Breech Bolt W/ Extractor & Short 1 1/4'' Ejector, NI
NI 301180 Cartridge Stop, .44 Mag, NI
NI 268210B Front Band Screw, Tapered, NI
NI 268000B Front Sight, .360 High
NI 884810E Quick Detachable Swivels, 1'' Non-Locking, Pair, W/O Bases
NI 884800D Quick Detachable Swivels, 1-1/4'' Non-Locking, Pair, W/O Bases, NI
NI 267280-05 Rear Sight Assembly W/ #3C Elevator
NI 538010E Swivel, 1'' Locking Quick Detachable, Pair, W/O Bases, NI
NI 538020G Swivel, 1-1/4'' Locking Quick Detachable, Pair, W/O Bases

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