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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Reading. Reply with quote

Hey I didnt know you were a pilot!

My dad was a pilot in the navy, stationed all over but was in Kodiak for a year or two. When he got out of the service he owned an aerophotography company... until he got in a head-on airplane collision in texas. The two planes "skipped" off each other and both "landed" with no loss of life. My dad's plane had the entire dashboard ripped open with the jets tail embedded between the pilot and copilot seat in the dash. They were able to use the duel engine throttles to manuver and land. He lost interest in flying after that lol


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Reading. Reply with quote

Popgun,

You fly ?? Shocked

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Reading. Reply with quote

I used topo maps and my Silva compass. I also like Dallan's idea of using Google Earth. Must look at that. Print out topo pics.

Learnt to navigate properly when I was in the Army. The best instructor I had was an aboriginal guy who was an absolute wizard in the scrub. He would look at the map, lift his head and look at the sky and all around him, put the map and compass in his pocket and move off......even those keeping a close eye on their map and compass were astounded at his accuracy in navigating.

I have been geographically embarrassed on a couple of occasions, but it was always due to my stupidity in not following the map and compass and thinking that I knew what I was doing. Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Learnt the hard way!! Very Happy

Have thought about buying a GPS, but they are not real high on my "must have" list because of their cost and other priorities. There are places though that a GPS is pretty well useless. Some years back, again in the Army, we were doing an "activity" in a jungle/rainforest area. We had the latest (at the time) all singin' all dancin' military GPS that we were using for the first time in this scenario...anyway, as the jungle got thicker we realised that the GPS was "in trouble"...it couldn't pick up the satellites through the canopy. We had the option of climbing this bloody great "yarma" (read mountain!) to try to get a signal or back tracking to our last signal point. Luckily one of the guys didn't trust new technology and had his trusty old prismatic compass and topo map with him.....it worked a treat. He had been following our progress and knew exactly where we were all the time! Nobody just thought to ask him until it became obvious we didn't know our position.

Electronics can and will let you down wtf ...remember Murphy's Law. By all means use a GPS, but NEVER lose site of or touch with the basics. If you know how to use a compass and topo map, and practice regularly, you should not get lost, or at least be too far out. Not only that but getting from Point A to Point B via a number of different points using a map and compass is very satisfying. Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Reading. Reply with quote

Dimitry,
Yep, the wife and I are pilots. It got to be a very expensive hobby so we sold our Cherokee Six PA-32-300. We haven't done much flying since selling the "Six". Sad AvGas cost is out of sight now.

Dallen,
Your dad would take you to the wood shed for calling him a pilot. wtf wtf wtf Confused Confused Confused Shocked Shocked Shocked Mad Mad Mad Razz Razz My dad was a flyer in the Navy too back in the dubya dubya two out in the Pacific. He never flew jets but did fly PBY's (flying boats). He said he always kept a pocket full of pencils to jam in the rivet holes. When they landed they always popped rivets and started taking on water.
You see the Air Force and Army have pilots. The Navy has Naval Aviators! The difference is that Naval Aviators take off and land on aircraft carriers. Now go wash you mouth out with soap. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Vince,
I'm with you, stick to the basics because anything electrical will fail. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Reading. Reply with quote

Neat Popgun,

I looked at the prices for planes and I was kinda shocked how much they can go for. Shocked

Edit, One thing I did notice when looking at small planes is that some of them can use diseal fuel not aircraft fuel nowadays. I didnt know that was possible Confused

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Reading. Reply with quote

Diesel in an aircraft.....that sounds odd.

Have a mate who is a crop duster and he occasionally runs his aircraft on ULP. I have run one of my cars on Avgas which is 100/120 RON octane, but diesel in an aircraft...interesting.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Reading. Reply with quote

I once did a report on a aircraft company that is based near here in London Ontario. Smile

Anyways the companies name is "Diamond Aircraft" they are based from Austria and their DA42 takes ether Jet Fuel or Diesel. Smile Base cost for this plane is $478,638 though Shocked

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