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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

Grow teeth??

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

Just another ploy to go after the AR platforms and AR pistols. They like to make up the rules as they go.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

The only thing I haven't seen bandied around yet is that dreaded terrible murderous tern "assault rifle". I think it is a given that people in general now do not see the AR platform as necessarily an assault rifle, just another type of rifle.

Just so long as they continue producing hunting projectiles I'll be happy.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

From GOA:
ATF cries “uncle” after getting hammered from the public

The agency is now crying “uncle,” in the face of thousands upon thousands of negative comments from gun owners all around the country -- including more than 200 congressmen.

The agency said today:

Although ATF endeavored to create a proposal that reflected a good faith interpretation of the law and balanced the interests of law enforcement, industry, and sportsmen, the vast majority of the comments received to date are critical of the framework, and include issues that deserve further study.

A “good faith interpretation”? Well, that’s laughable. But realize the agency says the issue deserves “further study.”

So now the question becomes: Is this a genuine retreat, or just a “tactical retreat,” as we saw with Operation Choke Point? In that case, the federal government removed gun dealers from its “risky business list,” but continue to persecute them under that program on a case-by-case basis.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said 80,000 comments rolled in, many against the proposal to ban the 5.66 M855 "green tip" ammo. The NRA and the other groups still plan to flood ATF mailboxes with opposition letters just to make sure they go through with their withdrawal.




good on them!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

Was notified this morning by the NRA that it's done.

here is a link.

gunssavelives.net/gun-...5-for-now/

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

Thanks for that RePete! A few good links on there too.



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

Does anyone realize they did this last year with the 7N6 5.45×39mm (AK74) ???

They probably figured the M855 could be banned just as easy without being challenged on it's so called "armor piercing" capabilities.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

Well that didn't take long........just came across this !!!

Democrats want bullet ban

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

write your congress critters and let them know that the military already has armor piercing bullets that are not available to the public. They (the military) already define what an armor piercing bullet is - congress, on the other hand has no clue what an armor piercing bullet is.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:43 am    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

Suzanne wrote:
They're claiming the m855 is an armor piercing round and it isn't, matter of fact the ATF didn't used to include it as an AP round, but now they do? It's just an inexpensive cost effective practice round from what I can tell.


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The SS109 is a 62gr FMJ BT MER 800m and is the standard 5.56mm NATO round. Its US equivalent is the M855 55gr FJM Flat base MER 480m. In Hohenfels Germany we did range qualification and the Btln Cmdr was pissed at the qualification results and it was due to the supply or range officer or whomever who had issued mixed up US and NATO ammo and long story short we had to re-qualify all over again and we never did see that major again. Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

according to the NRA and several other news agencies the ban will not be taking effect.

After all the comments and the NRA lobbying the ATFE has decided that the M855 round is not the "cop killer" bullet that they were led to believe it was and that it is used primarily in recreational shooting.

Duh! If they had spent five minutes on the web they would have known that!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

Just another small piece of the gun grab agenda. The incremental erosion of our rights is the goal and such minor things as common sense will not defer them.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

My understanding is that the Democrats have already announced a new plan to ban 5.56/.223 ammo. Those who seek to disarm the law abiding will never give up. They don't give a damn what the PEOPLE think.

thehill.com/regulation...egislation

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending Reply with quote

Unfortunately, the ANTIs have an agenda and they "own" parts of the Govt, so they will continue to put pressure on those Senators that they contributed to in order to further their agenda.

I know what the answer is, but it is not something that needs be aired publicly.

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