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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

It makes sense that the primer was the weak link in that chain.

I would check the sizer die setting or the shell holder of whoever resized that case.

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

Next time try a solid rod instead of a threaded rod.

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

If the sizing die is set-up correctly and cases are dim checked, I shouldn't need a rod.

Lots of lessons learned here for me.

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

Still we want kabooms

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

:bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

It would probably be good to list the lessons learned since as payment for not providing the proper KABOOM entertainment

First, I should preface that I typically use factory FMJ ammo at these carbine action / 3 Gun matches except when I'm firing at steel plates at a club that requires SP/OTM or they are at longer ranges, 200 yards plus. Then I use reloads. This was a reloaded cartridge.

Lessons learned

1. Case check all rezied brass/reloaded ammo
2. Don't use forward assist - it only makes the problem worse
3. Don't use a cleaning rod with an open/threaded tip to try and knock a bullet out. It its all you have than only use light force. If that doesn't push the round out don't hit it harder.
4. it the bullet moves back into the case, give up. The powder column will only act like a shock absorber. Its time to move to the "freeze" it out options.

It does appear that the penetrating oil soak for a week with the barrel up inerted the primer. However, I don't know that I would rely on this always happening.

Did I miss one?

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

slimjim wrote:


Did I miss one?

Ya.. no kaboom Sad

Seriously, on point 3, a lot of small taps might do better than a big push.
And penetrating oil need time to work.
"it wont happen overnight, but it will happen"

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

gelandangan wrote:
penetrating oil need time to work.

I used BPlaster and Liguid Wrench and let penetrate for 2 weeks. The only other option might have been Seafoam Deep Creep, I've heard that its the best by a couple of folks.

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

If I am in 'merica, I would likely to go for kroil.
I heard homebrew concoction of 50-50 sewing machine oil and kerosene works as well.
Personally I just use wd40

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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

With the barrel clear and the AR reassembled with a new handguard/gas block, its ready for a check-out at the range. I wonder if it will shoot as good as it did before?



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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

Post-Op Analysis. The barrel needed a healthy dose of cleaning. Lots of copper fouling. But that wasn't the real issue. I had 2 unfired rounds left from the batch of the handloads that the case stuck in the chamber. Using my Dillan Precision Case Gauge they checked good. However, I picked up a new case gauge last month from Sheridan Engineering.

www.sheridanengineerin...dex-2.htm#

When checking these two remaining cases, they didn't fit. Factory ammo and my latest resized cases did. Guess the Dillon case gauge is a paper weight.



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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

That is nice to also visually confirm case fit. I think I may invest in a few of these.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

"Guess the Dillon case gauge is a paper weight."

did the policy at Dillon change? I've always believed in their excellent service, so before I would make myself an extra paper weight, I would address a few words to Dillon (even when it's only to discover that their policy realy has changed over the years. You already have a "no" but you could get a "yes"!)

And when they don't give you a decent answer then I'd like to know, so that I can repaint my press from blue to red, orange or green as a silent protest Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

Aloys, I went back and checked the Dillon website. Their case gauge is for headspace and trim length only. After this experience, it seems to fall short of the real need.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

Most of those case gauges are large in diameter - large enough to let a fat case fit as long as the shoulder is in the right place.

It looks like your new gauge is a keeper.

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: KABOOM Reply with quote

Drat!! No KABOOM...Drat!!

Glad you solved before you did it again.

Now for the fire test........

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