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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: .223 Reply with quote

been reading alot about different 223 lately.
I am in the process of buying one myself real soon.

the chioce between a remington or a savage .

I have decided to go with the savage 10FP.

I choose to go with this after reading several post on peoples actual specs from other sites and this site.

here is a little info for the savage and remington 223. the two I was looking at.

Product Information

Savage 10FP 223
Category: Firearm/Gun
Type: Rifle
Action: Bolt
Manufacturer: Savage Arms
Caliber/Gauge: .223 Rem
Model: 10 FP Tactical
Finish: Matte Blue
Stock or Grips: Black Synthetic
Barrel Length: 24
Overall Length: 44.75
Weight: 8.5
Capacity: 4+1
Safety Features: 3 Position Top Tang
Drilled & Tapped: Yes
Rate-of-Twist: 1-in-9
Additional Feature 1: Heavy Free Floating Barrel
Additional Feature 2: 3rd Swivel Stud For Mounting Bipod


Remington MODEL 700â„¢ SPSâ„¢

Caliber 223 Remington
Mag. Cap. 5
Barrel Length 24"
Rate of Twist 12"
Overall Length 43 5/8"
Avg. Wt.(lbs.) 7 1/4

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:07 am    Post subject: Re: .223 Reply with quote

Your 1 in 9 inch twist will stabilize the heavier bullets but you might (small chance in my book) have problems with the light weight bullets. The heavy barrel can be better for accuracy but that is not cast in stone and there are different barrel weights for the Remington too - some cost more while others do not. The free floated barrel is a good thing (I usually check after my first firing at the range (while the gun is still warm) which I take care of myself. The built in bipod is nice if you shoot in country where you can use it - in the mountains and alpine valleys that I hunt in it would be useless. The added weight of the savage is a good thing for me - Both my remingtons have been weighted to a good balance point for me and the both weigh ten pounds with magazine empty. Some will complain about carrying that weight but it has never been a problem for me and the rifle holds steady for me. The Remington safety is ok but I replaced the trigger and safety on both of mine with a Timney system. Some people complain about the Savage trigger - if you want better get a timney or some other aftermarket trigger - get a HUNTING trigger unless you can feel the trigger through gloves - most of the target triggers are measured in ounces and the hunting triggers are measured in pounds. My triggers are adjusted to 4 pounds and I do real well with them.
Basically I think you made the better choice - though I prefer a stabilized WOOD stock over the synthetic but as long as you are ok with it it will be stable and last forever. The money you saved over the Remington will go toward a better scope I suppose so you will end up with a better sight than you might have been able to afford if you had bought the more expensive Remington.
This from a guy who likes his Remingtons.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: .223 Reply with quote

Cool Cool YES, YES, YES!!! I see another SAVAGE Convert being born!!! I'm sure you will be amazed!!!! Cool Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: .223 Reply with quote

the remington I was looking at is about $100.00 dollers cheaper.

Remington 700 SPS .223 rem. Synthetic stock with matte barrel & action, NIB, $395.00. With Alpen Kodiak 3.5-10x44 scope, $540.00.

the savage is $650.00 with the same csope set up.

for some reson this guy that has this for sale has the remington cheaper than the savage ? even with the remington being cheaper , I am still looking at the savage.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: .223 Reply with quote

Cool You will still be beter off with the Savage (IMO) as with just a bolt head change and a new barrel you have another rifle for under$300. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: Re: .223 Reply with quote

Go with the Savage!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: .223 Reply with quote

I have a Bushmaster Varminter 223, It shoots 40gr Hornady V-max bullets into 1/2" @ 100yds consistantly with a 1-9 twist barrel, I think its just a matter of playing with the load til you get the sweet spot right.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: .223 Reply with quote

I would also seriously consider the Savages, especially a new one with the accu-trigger. We use them alot out here for prairie dog shooting. Their out of the box accuracy has proved to be as advertised, and they shoot great with manufactured ammo. With handloads they can shoot excellent.
My 2 cents worth. Whatever you decide to purchase, the .223 is fun to Very Happy shoot, and you'll get alot of enjoyment out of it.--tr

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: .223 Reply with quote

I know Savage makes good barrles, I took a Savage barrel and installed a AR-15 barrel extension and put it on a AR-15 flat top reciever, shoots great!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: .223 Reply with quote

Adding my 2 cents...I have a Savage & I really like the accutrigger system. I decided on a .243 since I have a .223 already. With the .243 I have more flexibility & trust me, It'll take any varmint through deer size game. If your a true marksman, you can stretch it out to include elk, moose, & black bear. Savage has a good reputation for accuracy out of the box and are affordable.
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