HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: ffttty100
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 12554

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 94
BOT: 2
Total: 96
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Albums
02: Photo Albums
03: Forums
04: Forums
05: Your Account
06: Your Account
07: Forums
08: Forums
09: Forums
10: Your Account
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Forums
14: News
15: Forums
16: Forums
17: Photo Albums
18: Forums
19: Forums
20: Photo Albums
21: Photo Albums
22: Forums
23: Forums
24: Forums
25: Home
26: Photo Albums
27: Forums
28: Forums
29: Photo Albums
30: Forums
31: Your Account
32: Forums
33: Forums
34: Forums
35: Forums
36: Photo Albums
37: Forums
38: Photo Albums
39: Forums
40: Forums
41: Forums
42: Forums
43: Photo Albums
44: Photo Albums
45: Photo Albums
46: Photo Albums
47: Photo Albums
48: Forums
49: Forums
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: Forums
53: Photo Albums
54: Forums
55: Your Account
56: Forums
57: Forums
58: Forums
59: Photo Albums
60: Forums
61: Your Account
62: Your Account
63: Your Account
64: Photo Albums
65: Photo Albums
66: Photo Albums
67: Forums
68: Photo Albums
69: Forums
70: Forums
71: Forums
72: Forums
73: Forums
74: Forums
75: Photo Albums
76: Photo Albums
77: Photo Albums
78: Forums
79: Forums
80: Forums
81: Forums
82: Photo Albums
83: Forums
84: Photo Albums
85: Your Account
86: Forums
87: Forums
88: Forums
89: Photo Albums
90: Forums
91: Forums
92: Forums
93: Forums
94: Forums
  BOT:
01: Forums
02: Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 305
 Pictures: 2353
  · Views: 332021
  · Votes: 1305
  · Comments: 85
 

Support our Advertisers

M1A reloads
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Rich916
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Feb 10, 2013
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

I greatly appreciate all of your input. Im going to go over to Sportsmans at lunch and pick up a small base die. If that doesnt work I will pull 5 bullets and add a grain of powder.

Will get back to you guys next week end.

DHC, I was throwing each load out of a the powder dispenser. I did not weigh each load separately.

Slim, rounds are not crimped. I may also run a few rounds using imr 4895.

I'm thinking my problem is solved with a low base die, my buddy ran ten rounds through his winchester sx-ar with no problems. The M1A reloading article by Glen Zediker also pointed out that a low base is needed.

Thanks again. I'll follow up this week end.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Rich916
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Feb 10, 2013
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

I greatly appreciate all of your input. Im going to go over to Sportsmans at lunch and pick up a small base die. If that doesnt work I will pull 5 bullets and add a grain of powder.

Will get back to you guys next week end.

DHC, I was throwing each load out of a the powder dispenser. I did not weigh each load separately.

Slim, rounds are not crimped. I may also run a few rounds using imr 4895.

I'm thinking my problem is solved with a low base die, my buddy ran ten rounds through his winchester sx-ar with no problems. The M1A reloading article by Glen Zediker also pointed out that a low base is needed.

Thanks again. I'll follow up this week end.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Rich916
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Feb 10, 2013
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

Geland My extractor does leaves marks on the brass. Action of rifle is pretty brutal on the brass. But then again, I have no problems with store bought ammo.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
gelandangan
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 07, 2006
Posts: 5806
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

Rich916 wrote:
Geland My extractor does leaves marks on the brass. Action of rifle is pretty brutal on the brass. But then again, I have no problems with store bought ammo.

Okay, does the extractor claw left marks on the factory ammo the same as the reloads?

_________________
A straight line is the shortest distance between two points.
A smile is the shortest distance between two people.

The government I trust .. is my .45-70 Government.

Do - Not try!


gelandangan.weebly.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Rich916
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Feb 10, 2013
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

Geland. Yes. It leaves the same marks on the factory ammo. I picked up an RCBS small base die at lunch. Got lucky, it was the last one they had. I'm also greatful I stocked up on about 15 diferent powders before the latest Obama panic that cleared all the shelves.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 7250
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

hmmm sounds interesting. I dont own a semi but have read somewhere of the problems they had with the M16 when it went into use because of the ball?? powder being used had a different burning rate to what was needed to make then function properly. maybe some thing along those lines..??
weird that factory is ok and your reloads arent. if you have acess to someone elses reloading gear do the same load through thier dies and see what happens.

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Pumpkinslinger
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007
Posts: 4445
Location: NC foothills

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

All gas operated guns are designed to operate with a certain pressure curve, which is why they can be sensitive to types of powder.

_________________
Mike

"I ain't no better than anyone else, and there ain't no one better than me!" Ma Kettle

Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 7345
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

Also, don't crimp.

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 7345
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

Ok, I didn't do all this stuttering. I remember this happening once before may 18 months ago. Not sure why, this is a different computer.

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile
gelandangan
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 07, 2006
Posts: 5806
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

Ok, the consensus is seems to favor changing powder loads.

_________________
A straight line is the shortest distance between two points.
A smile is the shortest distance between two people.

The government I trust .. is my .45-70 Government.

Do - Not try!


gelandangan.weebly.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
MacD
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Apr 08, 2011
Posts: 1052
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

Slim:
I don't load for semi rifles but I expect that day is coming. Your advise not to crimp perked my interest. Since I have only fired military or police semi's I have always used service ammo. Without exception it was all crimped. Even the 9mm was taper crimped. How does not crimping contribute to better cycling?

_________________
La a'Blair s'math n Cairdean
(Friends are good on the day of battle)
Back to top
View user's profile
Aloysius
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 2104
Location: B., Belgium

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

MacD, I also do crimp rounds for a semi-auto. If not, there is a big risc that the bullet would move into the barrel before you hit the primer and I don't like my bullet touching the rifling without me wanting it. Also when you don't fire such a round and try to unload the rifle, all powder is spread in the mechanism... and I don't like unburned powder surrounding my round when I fire it...

So for me: co crimp for a semi-auto because the bolt has usualy such a speed that it acts as an inert hammer.

But SJ could have better reason to not crimp...
Back to top
View user's profile
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 7345
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:19 am    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

If your going to crimp for a semi auto, you should have bullets with cannelures and your seating depth must be only at the point where the crimp locks into the cannelure.

I mistakenly tried crimping with bullets that didn't have a cannelure or seated where the neck didn't reach the cannelure (against Reddings recommendation). I can't locate my topic about it but I had issues with rounds not chambering in my six8 AR. When I stopped crimping, the rounds started chambering without issue. I think since my crimp didn't have anywhere to go, it was distorting the neck.

I also make sure I have enough neck tension to hold the bullet. I've even measured rounds after chambering to ensure COAL wasn't changing.

Anyway, if you have a semi-auto that is not chambering reliably with reloads, I would try not crimping and seeing if that helps.

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile
Aloysius
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 2104
Location: B., Belgium

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

Strange. I use the Lee factory crimp, also on bullets without a cannelure with no problems at all. I even noticed once that I pushed rather deep markings in a czech bullet without cannelure. I think that's not so good for accuracy.

Maybe there's a big difference in a semi-auto in a small caliber compared to one with .308 bullets.
Back to top
View user's profile
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 7345
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: M1A reloads Reply with quote

There are two types of crimping dies, roll crimp and tapered crimp. Plus some dies (like mine) have the crimping feature built into the bullet seating die as the last part of the stroke instead of a dedicated die like yours. These can all be factors in why one may be and issue and another not.

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition
Page 2 of 4
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Advertisements
 


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.