HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: longrangesniper
New Today: 1
New Yesterday: 1
Overall: 12406

People Online:
Members: 1
Visitors: 119
BOT: 4
Total: 124
Who Is Where:
 Members:
01: slimjim > Home
 Visitors:
01: Photo Albums
02: Photo Albums
03: Forums
04: Photo Albums
05: Forums
06: Home
07: Forums
08: Photo Albums
09: Forums
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Your Account
13: Forums
14: Forums
15: Forums
16: Forums
17: Your Account
18: Forums
19: Forums
20: Photo Albums
21: Forums
22: Forums
23: Forums
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Photo Albums
27: Forums
28: Forums
29: Forums
30: Forums
31: Forums
32: Forums
33: Forums
34: Photo Albums
35: Photo Albums
36: Forums
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Forums
40: Forums
41: Forums
42: Photo Albums
43: Photo Albums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Forums
47: Forums
48: Forums
49: Forums
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: Your Account
53: Forums
54: Forums
55: Photo Albums
56: Forums
57: Forums
58: Forums
59: Forums
60: Forums
61: Forums
62: Forums
63: Forums
64: Forums
65: Photo Albums
66: Your Account
67: Forums
68: Forums
69: Forums
70: Forums
71: Forums
72: Forums
73: Forums
74: Forums
75: Forums
76: Photo Albums
77: Forums
78: Photo Albums
79: Photo Albums
80: Forums
81: Photo Albums
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Forums
85: Photo Albums
86: Forums
87: Forums
88: Forums
89: Forums
90: Forums
91: Forums
92: Forums
93: Forums
94: Forums
95: Forums
96: Photo Albums
97: Photo Albums
98: Forums
99: Forums
100: Forums
101: Forums
102: Photo Albums
103: Forums
104: Your Account
105: Forums
106: Forums
107: Your Account
108: Forums
109: Forums
110: Forums
111: Forums
112: Forums
113: Forums
114: Forums
115: Forums
116: Forums
117: Forums
118: Forums
119: Forums
  BOT:
01: Photo Albums
02: Forums
03: Home
04: Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 313
 Pictures: 2423
  · Views: 268449
  · Votes: 1310
  · Comments: 86
 

Support our Advertisers

Range Report Berry's Bullets 9mm
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
MacD
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Apr 08, 2011
Posts: 1052
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:47 pm    Post subject: Range Report Berry's Bullets 9mm Reply with quote

So I finally got out to the range. Had the place to myself. It was nice. I fired 100 Berry's 124 grain copper plated out of my shiny new M&P9. 50 were HP and 50 RN. They were loaded 10 each with .1 grain increment charges of Win231. The HP's started @3.6 grns and ended @ 4.0. The RN @ 3.8 and ended @ 4.2. HP's were seated @1.060 +/- .004 and the RN @ 1.120 +/-.005. I chronographed each shot alternating 10 HP and 10 RN. I had no issues with the pistol functioning even on the lowest charges.

The average velocities
RN HP
923 925
945 924
970 973
988 988
995 1001

I wasn't shooting for accuracy, good thing since I haven't fired a pistol in over 40 years, but surprisingly the higher velocity HP's seemed more accurate than the RN. I found it interesting that the two load ranges lined up so closely despite the .2 grain powder difference for each corresponding load. That obviously is caused by the deeper seating of the HP's.

After shooting off my own hand loads I ran a box of Win White Box 115 FMJRN through. At 25 feet I was able to put a full 10 round magazine into a 4 inch circle. I know that is pretty sad but I was pleased and it confirmed the factory sighting of the pistol was good.

As an aside I did some chamber measurements with the two bullets. The RN were 1.229 to the lands and the HP 1.062. I checked my measurements several time. Based on the HP one I was on or very near the lands @1.060. My next load I will keep the powder charges the same and reduce the OAL to 1.055. Given the velocities I feel I am still well within safe limits.

_________________
La a'Blair s'math n Cairdean
(Friends are good on the day of battle)
Back to top
View user's profile
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 6798
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Range Report Berry's Bullets 9mm Reply with quote

nothing wrong with 4" at 25 feet, nothing at all, thats minute of mugger any day of the week!!!

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
SingleShotLover
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Dec 26, 2007
Posts: 929
Location: Illinois

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: Range Report Berry's Bullets 9mm Reply with quote

Sounds like you're doing things right. Do remember that seating a bullet out more than the loading manual recommendation won't cause any real problems other than possible feeding issues, but seating deeper, even slightly, can raise pressures dramatically. Most people don't try to seat handgun bullets out to the lands, but seat for reliability. In most cases seating out farther than recommended will actually lower velocity since it lowers pressure. Experiment...there's always a sweet spot. And stay safe.

_________________
If you can't hit it with one, you probably can't with two either!

The biggest problem with a closed mind is that it never seems to come with a closed mouth.

SSL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
MacD
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Apr 08, 2011
Posts: 1052
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Range Report Berry's Bullets 9mm Reply with quote

It was not my plan to seat so close to the lands. The fat profile of the bullet and the normal varation in OAL put me there. Before Seating deeper I wanted to see what velocities I was getting with the low and moderate powder charges. To get some jump I need to go for a shorter OAL. I am confident 1.055 should be safe. I will start with the same load series and watch what happens to velocities and check for pressure signs.

_________________
La a'Blair s'math n Cairdean
(Friends are good on the day of battle)
Back to top
View user's profile
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 6903
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: Range Report Berry's Bullets 9mm Reply with quote

MacD wrote:
I haven't fired a pistol in over 40 years,

MacD, 40 years???? Why such a long dry spell?

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile
MacD
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Apr 08, 2011
Posts: 1052
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Range Report Berry's Bullets 9mm Reply with quote

Last time I handled a pistol was when I was in a militia regiment while I attended university. I won an area command shoot-off with the Browning 9mm but after that I went into an administrative position and just never had the inclination to get back at it until now.

_________________
La a'Blair s'math n Cairdean
(Friends are good on the day of battle)
Back to top
View user's profile
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 6903
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Range Report Berry's Bullets 9mm Reply with quote

MacD, enjoy it to the max!

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile
stovepipe
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 25, 2008
Posts: 4714
Location: Pine, Az.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Range Report Berry's Bullets 9mm Reply with quote

REALLY REALLY watch it with 9mm and seating depth changes, esp with jacketed stuff. I use plated too...Xtreme brand though. Reminds me...gotta order some.

Nice group @ 7m too! If that action dont stop whatever it is buggin ya, dont come see me, I dont want yer problem! Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 7 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Advertisements
 


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.