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new tc encore .50 muzzle loader
Hunting and discussion with Muzzle Loaders, Archery and other Primitive weapons
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

ok now ive got the bp rifle finally all together,
how do i clean between shots ?
it says water clean up ? ok i can clean it wih water at the end of the shoot..
but between shots , do i use a solvent ?
or just swab out with a patch ??
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

When shooting for groups I used a damp patch, followed by dry ones until you're sure the bore is dry. Then fire a primer to make sure the vent is dry and clear.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

straight from the above mentioned hodgdon manual. Very Happy
Pyrodex burns cleaner and produces less fouling build-up than black powder. Although fouling is left in the barrel, it does not affect ease of loading, pressure, or velocity after the initial shot. it is not necessary to clean the bore between each shot as with black powder.
the gun should be cleaned with a water based solvent(spit bath or pyrodex lube recommended), dried thoroughly, and oiled the same as with black powder. Smile
Shocked now I would take it the secound paragraph SHOULD have started with" after a shooting session" Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

Especially when using Triple 7, unless you are shooting in a match situation you should be able to shoot several consecutive shots without cleaning, otherwise Pumpkinslinger's method works well at the range. Just how many shots before cleaning depends on your particular rifle. Triple 7 doesn't seem to leave much more residue than most smokeless powder applications in cartridges.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

alright i shot this rifle today and WHOA its AWESOME Very Happy ,lol hit my target too Shocked
now again , another question
on the breach plug it was realy gummy with a real sticky type grease i would think.
is this a sort of anti seize compound ? what is a good one to use if this is needed or can any automotive type anti seize be used ? Confused
and whats a good bore lubrication for storage ??
i do have the instructions on order ,lol but thats a few days away and this is now ,lol Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

Here's a short discussion on breech plug grease. I can't remember what I used on mine, haven't had a chance to use it in a couple years!

answers.yahoo.com/ques...307AAL1K0n

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

I would use either copper or zinc based antiseize because the nitrates and sulfer combine under presure and heat to make sulferic acid. The zinc protects better but the copper is a close second.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

thanks guys for your time and knowledge , i will get the anti seize grease from local gun shop .
saw where a equal parts alcohol , murphys soap , and hydrogen peroxide is a good cleaner . my question is , do i use that alone with patches to clean or do i wash it all out with water then dry with patches ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

When I use 777 I just use plain water and patches, dry well and run some 1000+ lube down the bore to protect it. Before shooting I run some patches down the bore to remove as much lube as possible. When shooting plastic sabots or plastics skirts the lube can make the plastic skid on the lands, affecting accuracy.

When I use real black powder I clean with hydrogen pyroxide and a nylon brush then flush with lots of HOT water. When the water comes out pretty clear I start running patches through to dry it. Again I use 1000+ lube in the bore to protect it. However with black powder I leave the lube in the bore when I start shooting as it helps soften any fouling. But I also shoot only lead bullets in those guns.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

found some .45 cal sabot for my old .45 cal. .452 dia. 230 grain bullets whooeee hopefully that will be some good cheap shooting .. any ideas ??
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

Here is a ML data book from Hodgdon, be sure to check the box "I have read and understand the warning information below" than hit the "Get Muzzleloading Data". -----> www.hodgdon.com/ml-warning.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: new tc encore .50 muzzle loader Reply with quote

thanks i saw this earlier dureing my searches for data for the bp
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