HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: RichardZ
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 13126

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 489
BOT: 1
Total: 490
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: News
02: Forums
03: Forums
04: Home
05: Forums
06: Forums
07: Forums
08: Forums
09: Forums
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Forums
14: Home
15: Forums
16: Home
17: Your Account
18: Forums
19: Forums
20: Photo Albums
21: Forums
22: Forums
23: Forums
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Your Account
27: Forums
28: Photo Albums
29: Forums
30: Photo Albums
31: Photo Albums
32: Home
33: Statistics
34: Forums
35: Home
36: Photo Albums
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Photo Albums
40: Forums
41: Home
42: Forums
43: Forums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Your Account
47: Forums
48: Your Account
49: Home
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: Forums
53: Home
54: Forums
55: Forums
56: Photo Albums
57: Your Account
58: Your Account
59: Forums
60: Forums
61: Forums
62: Your Account
63: Forums
64: Home
65: Forums
66: Forums
67: Forums
68: Forums
69: Forums
70: Forums
71: Forums
72: Forums
73: Forums
74: Forums
75: Forums
76: Forums
77: Your Account
78: Your Account
79: Forums
80: Forums
81: Your Account
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Your Account
85: Your Account
86: Forums
87: Forums
88: Forums
89: Your Account
90: Statistics
91: Forums
92: Forums
93: Forums
94: Forums
95: Your Account
96: Forums
97: Forums
98: Your Account
99: Forums
100: Home
101: Forums
102: Forums
103: Forums
104: Forums
105: Your Account
106: Forums
107: Photo Albums
108: Forums
109: Home
110: Photo Albums
111: Your Account
112: Forums
113: Forums
114: Forums
115: Home
116: Forums
117: Forums
118: Your Account
119: Forums
120: Photo Albums
121: Forums
122: Forums
123: Forums
124: Forums
125: Forums
126: Your Account
127: Forums
128: Home
129: Photo Albums
130: Home
131: Photo Albums
132: News
133: Forums
134: Forums
135: Your Account
136: Forums
137: Home
138: Forums
139: Forums
140: Forums
141: Forums
142: Forums
143: Home
144: Forums
145: Forums
146: Forums
147: Forums
148: Forums
149: Forums
150: Your Account
151: Your Account
152: Forums
153: Forums
154: Your Account
155: Forums
156: Forums
157: Forums
158: Forums
159: Forums
160: Forums
161: Forums
162: Forums
163: Forums
164: Forums
165: Forums
166: Forums
167: Forums
168: Forums
169: Forums
170: Forums
171: Forums
172: Forums
173: Photo Albums
174: Forums
175: Your Account
176: Photo Albums
177: Forums
178: Forums
179: Forums
180: Forums
181: Your Account
182: Photo Albums
183: Photo Albums
184: Forums
185: Forums
186: Photo Albums
187: Forums
188: Forums
189: Forums
190: Forums
191: Forums
192: Forums
193: Forums
194: Your Account
195: Home
196: Photo Albums
197: Forums
198: Forums
199: Forums
200: Your Account
201: Forums
202: Photo Albums
203: Forums
204: Forums
205: Forums
206: Home
207: Forums
208: Your Account
209: Home
210: Home
211: Forums
212: Forums
213: Forums
214: Photo Albums
215: Your Account
216: Your Account
217: Your Account
218: News
219: Home
220: Forums
221: Forums
222: Forums
223: Forums
224: Forums
225: Photo Albums
226: Forums
227: Forums
228: Forums
229: Forums
230: Forums
231: Photo Albums
232: Photo Albums
233: Forums
234: Forums
235: Home
236: Forums
237: Forums
238: Forums
239: Forums
240: Forums
241: Photo Albums
242: Forums
243: Your Account
244: Forums
245: Your Account
246: Forums
247: Forums
248: Photo Albums
249: Forums
250: Photo Albums
251: Forums
252: Photo Albums
253: Forums
254: Your Account
255: Forums
256: Forums
257: Forums
258: Forums
259: Forums
260: Forums
261: Forums
262: Forums
263: Forums
264: Forums
265: Forums
266: Home
267: Forums
268: Home
269: Forums
270: Forums
271: Forums
272: Forums
273: Forums
274: Forums
275: Forums
276: Your Account
277: Forums
278: Forums
279: Photo Albums
280: Photo Albums
281: Forums
282: Your Account
283: Forums
284: Forums
285: Your Account
286: Your Account
287: Your Account
288: Photo Albums
289: Forums
290: Forums
291: Forums
292: Forums
293: Your Account
294: Photo Albums
295: Home
296: Your Account
297: Forums
298: Forums
299: Forums
300: Your Account
301: Photo Albums
302: Forums
303: Forums
304: Forums
305: Forums
306: Forums
307: Forums
308: Forums
309: Forums
310: Forums
311: Your Account
312: Forums
313: Your Account
314: Forums
315: Photo Albums
316: Forums
317: Photo Albums
318: Forums
319: Forums
320: Forums
321: Your Account
322: Forums
323: Forums
324: Forums
325: Forums
326: Your Account
327: Forums
328: Forums
329: Your Account
330: Forums
331: Forums
332: Forums
333: Forums
334: Forums
335: Forums
336: Forums
337: Forums
338: Your Account
339: Home
340: Forums
341: Forums
342: Forums
343: Forums
344: Forums
345: Forums
346: Forums
347: Your Account
348: Forums
349: Your Account
350: Forums
351: Forums
352: Your Account
353: Photo Albums
354: Photo Albums
355: Forums
356: Your Account
357: Forums
358: Forums
359: Forums
360: Your Account
361: Home
362: Forums
363: Photo Albums
364: Forums
365: Photo Albums
366: Forums
367: Forums
368: Your Account
369: Forums
370: Photo Albums
371: Your Account
372: Forums
373: Forums
374: Your Account
375: Your Account
376: Forums
377: Forums
378: Photo Albums
379: Forums
380: Home
381: Contact
382: Forums
383: Photo Albums
384: Forums
385: Forums
386: Forums
387: Forums
388: Forums
389: Photo Albums
390: Forums
391: Home
392: Your Account
393: Forums
394: Forums
395: Forums
396: Forums
397: Forums
398: Forums
399: Forums
400: Forums
401: Forums
402: Forums
403: Home
404: Forums
405: Forums
406: Photo Albums
407: Forums
408: Home
409: Forums
410: Photo Albums
411: Forums
412: Statistics
413: Home
414: Forums
415: Forums
416: Forums
417: Forums
418: Forums
419: Forums
420: Forums
421: Forums
422: Forums
423: Forums
424: Forums
425: Forums
426: Forums
427: Home
428: Forums
429: Your Account
430: Forums
431: Forums
432: Forums
433: Your Account
434: Forums
435: Home
436: Forums
437: Forums
438: Photo Albums
439: Forums
440: Your Account
441: Photo Albums
442: Your Account
443: Forums
444: Forums
445: Home
446: Forums
447: Your Account
448: Forums
449: Forums
450: Your Account
451: Forums
452: Forums
453: Forums
454: Forums
455: Forums
456: Your Account
457: Photo Albums
458: Home
459: Forums
460: Photo Albums
461: Forums
462: Forums
463: Forums
464: Forums
465: Forums
466: Photo Albums
467: Photo Albums
468: Forums
469: Your Account
470: Forums
471: Forums
472: Your Account
473: Your Account
474: Forums
475: Photo Albums
476: Photo Albums
477: Photo Albums
478: Forums
479: Forums
480: Forums
481: Your Account
482: Home
483: Forums
484: Forums
485: Forums
486: Forums
487: Home
488: Forums
489: Forums
  BOT:
01: Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 308
 Pictures: 2451
  · Views: 820725
  · Votes: 1316
  · Comments: 86
 

Things you hear in a gun shop
Discussions related to Guns and Firearms
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Gil Martin
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 28, 2005
Posts: 1837
Location: Schnecksville, PA

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:55 am    Post subject: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

I was in a gun shop looking over the used shotguns and overhead several other folks talking about shotguns. They assured each other that a 2 3/4 inch or 3 inch 12 gauge shotgun was too anemic for hunting turkeys and small game. I will never own a shotgun with a 3 1/2 chamber, rarely shoot 3 inch shells and prefer 2 3/4 inch loads. It is amazing that some of us have been afield for a half century using 2 3/4 shotguns and never knew that we were under gunned. Here endth the lesson. All the best...
Gil

_________________
Gil
Back to top
View user's profile
Aloysius
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 2438
Location: B., Belgium

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:23 am    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

Gil, you're right. When you want to shoot at longer distances, more shot will only help when you increase the diameter of the barrel and keep the height of the shotcup (inside the shell) equal or shorter.
So when you think you could use a heavier load, then take a caliber 10 or 8 (when allowed).

I have a Marlin Goosegun in cal 12 with a very long barrel with a full choke and a 3" chamber. I also have a B-25 Special Chasse double barrel, very short with 1/2 and full choke. When you shoot the same cartridge in both guns using only the full choke, which do you think will give the best pattern? Even the half choke barrel will give a tighter pattern than the Goosegun. And when you think a 3" shell in the Marlin will give you more pellets on target than a 2 3/4" shell in the FN, you think wrong.

A lot of people look for confidence in the word "magnum", but smart people take the time to look for a cartridge that fits the barrel.
Back to top
View user's profile
Ominivision1
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 20, 2010
Posts: 2984
Location: Iowa

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

That's funny, all the game animals I have taken with the 12g 2 3/4" never told me I was under gunned.

_________________
Regards

Limitations are but boundaries created inside our minds.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
MacD
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Apr 08, 2011
Posts: 1052
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

Popular wisdom is seldom wise. Firearms makers have to keep us buying new guns so they make sure their pet rewers and ads all tout the good about the new and the bad about the old. I have an old Cooey 840. It has killed almost everything it is legal to kill with a shotgun. This includes a very large moose. Learning to shoot and when to shoot is what counts not bigger shells and magazines.

_________________
La a'Blair s'math n Cairdean
(Friends are good on the day of battle)
Back to top
View user's profile
Bushmaster
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Posts: 11390
Location: Ava, Missouri

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

Hummm...Me thinks I'll keep my Browning BSS 12 GA. It is chambered for 2 3/4" shells.

It has taken its share of Doves, Quail, Pheasant, Grouse and Ducks. Not had a chance to go for Geese yet. I guess no one ever told it that it was under powered.



browning 12 ga bss 002 (medium).jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  92.39 KB
 Viewed:  7539 Time(s)

browning 12 ga bss 002 (medium).jpg


_________________
I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...

DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote...
Back to top
View user's profile
Pumpkinslinger
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007
Posts: 5001
Location: NC foothills

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

I've had to bite my tongue at many a gun shop when I heard a clerk tell someone something that was blatantly wrong. After all, who is the unknowning customer going to believe anyway, the store employee or some guy off the street?

I had a gun store owner tell me that firing any FMJ bullets in any rifle will ruin the bore...

I heard a clerk tell a petite woman who knew nothing about guns that she needed "at least a .45 Auto" to carry in her purse...

_________________
Mike

"I ain't no better than anybody else, and there ain't nobody better than me!" Ma Kettle
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

well Im the other way inclinded Pumpkin. straight BS doesnt sit well with me and that sort of salesmanship puts people out of/off our sports.
Aloy try a lighter load with the goose gun as my old H&R single loved a 1 1/8 load and threw better patterns with it than 1 1/4oz. maybe the extra shot gets crowded and deforms going through a tight choke?? SOME of those older guns have harsh forcing cones which wont be helping either. as for 2 3/4" not being enough. Ive shot everything up to large 180lb pigs with that sized shell and NEVER felt undergunned.

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
ElyBoy
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Apr 04, 2006
Posts: 1541
Location: Forest Lake Minnesota

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

I shelved my Auto 5 many years ago for a 3" when steel shot was new, and we were forced to use it in the duck blind.
However, for a long time steel shot has progressed to a point where my trusty 2 3/4" Auto 5 as been unretired, and shoots just as good alongside my friends who shoot the extremely expensive 3 1/2" loads.

Like what was said, the manufacturers have produced a great gimmick with their very expensive cannons to the novice shooters.

Eric

_________________
NRA Certified Chief Range Safety Officer
NRA Certified Pistol Instructor
DNR Certified Firearms Safety Instructor
NRA Life Member
Back to top
View user's profile
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

Eric see if you can find some 1 1/6th oz loads both kent and winchester put them out doing 1550fps and they are a good clean killing load.

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
SingleShotLover
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Dec 26, 2007
Posts: 1005
Location: Illinois

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

"Experts" abound, and some of the erroneous information isn't innocent BS. I was asked not to return to a gun shop after I couldn't hold my tongue while a clerk told a customer that "they just don't make ammo for your .244 Remington anymore. You'll have to trade it, and I would suggest that 6mm Remington over there." When I pointed out the generous supply of 6mm Remington ammo on the shelves and explained that up to bullets of 90 grains, the 6mm ammo was a perfect match for his .244, the clerk got irate, the customer asked the owner just what kind of store was he running, and I was asked to leave...which I gladly did, not to darken their doorway again.

_________________
If you can't hit it with one, you probably can't with two either!

The biggest problem with a closed mind is that it never seems to come with a closed mouth.

SSL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Aloysius
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 2438
Location: B., Belgium

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

SSL, I think one should be a 6 mm Rem owner to know what big mistake Remington made when they started offering the .244 Rem using a twist of 1 in 12", while Winchester gave their .243 Win a twist of 1 in 10".
Later on Remington changed the twist in 1 in 9" and renamed it the 6 mm Rem.
I like the 6 mm Rem and I know I don't use it enough, but that's mainly because I rather late learned to know the nice things about .224 bullets and their performances.
Back to top
View user's profile
gelandangan
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 07, 2006
Posts: 6396
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

Next you would hear that a 3030 is not enough gun to hunt deer.
Somehow, the animals are getting tougher everyday must have been one of those mutation thing.
Either that or the 'my gun is bigger than yours' syndrome.
What a load of crocks..

_________________
A straight line is the shortest distance between two points.
A smile is the shortest distance between two people.

Do - Not try!


gelandangan.weebly.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
gelandangan
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 07, 2006
Posts: 6396
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

Thick finger syndrome Very Happy

_________________
A straight line is the shortest distance between two points.
A smile is the shortest distance between two people.

Do - Not try!


gelandangan.weebly.com/


Last edited by gelandangan on Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:17 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Ominivision1
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 20, 2010
Posts: 2984
Location: Iowa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

Yup I agree gelandangan, for the last 20 to 30 years or so it seems that game animals have been getting tougher for some reason. And these new gun writers have been upping the ante as far as what rifle you need to shoot game.

Here is a video showing a moose hunt with the 30/30. www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xZsgwPlLM0

I still will state that hunting anything in the lower 48 states can and will be taken by the 30/30, it has proven itself time and time again for me from yotes to black bear and deer, mule deer and feral pigs with aplomb.

Sure there are a lot of better cartridges available but I will still take my lever action 30/30 any day over these newer cartridges, after all, the 30/30 has over a 100 year head start on them.

_________________
Regards

Limitations are but boundaries created inside our minds.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Fireman_DJ
Member
Member


Joined: Aug 11, 2011
Posts: 104
Location: Victoria, Australia

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: Things you hear in a gun shop Reply with quote

It's not that animals are getting tougher, it's that less and less shooters actually know how to shoot so they need a bigger pill to ensure when they stuff up and get a gut shot they can still get a kill.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Gun & Firearm Discussions
Page 1 of 3
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by *Dizfunkshunal* :.