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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:29 am    Post subject: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

I received this today in an email. I'm not sure that it is as bad as suggested, but it certainly does sound suspicious.


Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers WOW! Should we worry...you bet!!!

WOW....I didn't know this.

For the last several years a company called "The Freedom Group" has been
buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers.

Some of these companies are:



Bushmaster,
Marlin,
Remington,
DPMS,
Dakota A rms and
H&R.
DPMS Panther A rms
NEF
Dakota A rms
LC Smith
Parker
A A C
Barnes Bullets
EOT A C
INTC


Some people worry that Freedom Group is going to control most of the
firearms companies in the United States . Of course, If you control the
manufacturers you can decide not to sell to civilians, or, you can raise
the prices to ridiculous levels or you can make the supply of guns and
ammo scarce - all sorts of logjams.

What a perfect way to control America 's guns!

If you do some digging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a
Wall Street investment company called "Cerberus Capital Management".

"Cerberus" in the epic book "The Inferno" by Dante Alighieri, is a
three-headed demon hound (from Roman mythology) that guards the Gates of Hell to prevent those damned souls who have just crossed the river Styx ,
from escaping back to the world.

Investor GEORGE SOROS owns Cerberus!

Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come
out - and quickly! Why have we not heard about this in the "mainstream"
media? I would think this would be BIG news.

The absence of big media coverage on this important subject should be BIG
news to you, too!

Click on below link for verification.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Group

Cheers, Vince

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:12 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

intrigueing to be sure...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:14 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

This is a false rumor that started earlier this year, even the NRA did an investigation on this rumor and found it completely false. In fact the guy Soros has never been a part of the company nor an investor. Click link below to go to NRA's web site.

www.nraila.org/Legisla...px?id=7136

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

Thanks OV1...looks like Wikipedia is not as trustworthy as thought.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

Misinformation is used by every political stripe and interest group. Like the Salem witch trials, if you are looking for confirmation of what you already inclined to believe even innocent facts can take on an ominous vestige.

Want something to really be concerned about. Europe just went to the Chinese who have $3 trillion in currency reserves for help in bailing out their sorry asses. What do you think that is going to cost the free world?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

MacD wrote:
Want something to really be concerned about. Europe just went to the Chinese who have $3 trillion in currency reserves for help in bailing out their sorry asses. What do you think that is going to cost the free world?

Yup, I wonder if there is any country on this earth that doesn't owe China? Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

MacD, it seems that they already invested 7 trillion USD in american state's paper...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

Aloysius: They haven't called in that marker ....................... yet.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

MacD, here Van Rompuy did mention that number of chinese investments in the States. He was asking why it's now been said that the Chinese were buying Europe when nobody gave such comments about their investments of 7 trillion in America's government.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

Aloysius:

I was agreeing with you. The fact that China owns a good chunk of the US national debt as well as other assets in the free world doesn't give me a warm comfortable feeling. I expect India shares the same disquiet. Of course the good thing about this is that it gives China a very good reason to support the value of the US currency.

China doesn't need an army to conquer the free world. By keeping the dollar high they keep the value of their investments, can undersell US manufacturing competition and, since the remainder of the world holds most of the rest of the US debt, they wield significant influence in many areas.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

Hell, the govt doesn't pay any other debts, why would they pay the Chinese?!?!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

Good one Pumkinslinger. BTW your handle reminds me I am going to buy up some pumpkins and try out my 50 grain varmint grenades on them next week. They say its a real hoot.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

who are they going to use for a dept collector????
wait till they want it back and say" nah bro bugger off"
the whole we owe them and vise versa between countries is getting plurry abserd to say the least. how are they going to forclose??? or bankrupt???
I have limited experience in these matters but can remember the USSR paying the NZ dairy board for our cheese/butter etc with Lada motor vechiles. it was a win win as we got good solid reliable wagons to use cheapish and they got our product.
So does the Chinese treasury buy up US assets with thier dept???
I havent heard of it yet? any land/property for sale? heres some dept thank you very much, now lets send 50 000 people to live on it.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:18 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

Vince wrote:
Thanks OV1...looks like Wikipedia is not as trustworthy as thought.

Cheers, Vince

Wiki can be edited by pretty much anyone, so treat any information appertaining to potentially contentious subjects as biased, one way or another.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Buying up American gun and ammunition manufacturers Reply with quote

I did some research and this does a good job of explaining the China-US debt relationship. Warning, it is a pretty dry read.

www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL34314.pdf

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