25-06 loads

redneckhunter · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: 25-06 loads

i need some info on yalls loads for the 25-06 rem as ive got a new rifle that dosen`t like my old loads Shocked

i use 117 gr btsp bullet and the imr 4350 just wont cut the mustard with the new rifle , so any help would be greatly appreciated
i have reloader 22 and h 4831 powder also to work with here win and cci primers also
the rifle is a 24 in barreled bolt action
ive owned 6 different 25-06`s and this one is finicky so to speak Surprised

44marty · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

The Hornady 7th edition manual lists loads based in their 24" 1 in 10 twist test barrel (in a Rem 700). They used Winchester WLR primers. Their listings for 117 gr bullets (C.O.L. 3.170" for the BTSP):

RL-22 min load 48.1 gr (2700 fps) to MAX load 56.1 gr (3100 fps) with a 54.1 gr charge giving 3000 fps.

H4831 min 49.3 gr (2700 fps) to MAX 54.7 gr (3000 fps) with a 52.9 gr charge giving 2900 fps.

The comments in the text:
In our testing, the powders that performed the best with the 25-06 Remington were RL-22 and IMR 4831. These slower burning powders perform best when loaded in the region ranging between 90% of maximum to maximum.

I would try RL-22 powder and use the OCW method to determine what your rifle likes for a powder charge.

Hope this helps.

slimjim · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

here is some additional load data from the hunternut database.

huntingnut.com/index.p...dbid=13488

Have you tried changing bullet seating depth? Before I changed too much regarding your loads, I would give the rifle a thorough checkout; headspace, action to stock interface, scope & mounts, etc.

redneckhunter · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

thanks 44marty that will give me a starter place . im running out of time here as i can only get to range once a week (work calls ) ,lol and need somewhere to get a starter load going .
slimjim
yes ive checked the rifle and scope mounting myself as i mounted everything myself and double checked everything, the scope is a nikon and came off my old rifle . the new rifle is a bit mor picky i will say ,lol
its a browning xbolt . ive tried several different bullet seatings also ...

chambered221 · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

Got a old hunting buddy that is a complete 25-06 fanatic !!!

If it won't shoot a 100gr. Sierra BT or Nosler B-Tip with IMR4831 he would tell you something is wrong with the gun !!!

slimjim · Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:25 am Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

I had a Rem 700 in .308 that I could not get to shoot consistently. Tried several bullets and loads, rebedding the stock, etc. Then one day at the range, I just said that was it. I wasn't going to shoot one more round out of it. Sorry I sold it, I should have put a new barrel on it in .260 or 7mm-08 and had a good 1000 yard rifle.

Hope you find a good load for your new gun. Keep us posted.

redneckhunter · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

well i finally got the rifle 25-06 rem /117 grn horn. btsp to shoot . Very Happy

. i kept playing with the lenghthand 49.0 grains of imr 4350 with a cci primer.
got less than one in.groups this is a fairly hot load in my rifle ,had to sneak up on the load very carefilly.
also got one that im going to play with some more Smile

54.0 grn. h 4831 /win primer it shot about 1 in also
all the oal was seated at 3.215.
anyway they both show promise and i fel bunches better about this rifle Very Happy

slimjim · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

great news, RNH! It is rewarding when things come together like this. Much better than the opposite. Did you get any velocities?

redneckhunter · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

no velocities this round , however i will take the chrony when i go back to range (had to leave early today )
on the 49.0 grn imr 4350 loads vel is about 2925 or so according to the hornady #8 edition
the 54 grn h 4831 shows about 2980 or so being that 54.7 grn is max at 3000 fps
will get back later next week to the range

Elvis · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:10 am Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

great to hear you have had sucess.

Joe Boleo · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:02 am Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

I like a story with a happy ending. Take care...
Joe

fnuser · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

I once had a 25-06 that wouldn't shoot anything but sierra 75's over 52g 760 this doesn't sound like anything but in that rifle it went under .25" all the time

Vince · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

Well done Redneck H. I think the 25.06 tends to be a much forgotten and maybe a little maligned calibre...but it does a great job in the paddock.

Cheers, Vince

dhc4ever · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

Vince wrote:

Well done Redneck H. I think the 25.06 tends to be a much forgotten and maybe a little maligned calibre...but it does a great job in the paddock.

Cheers, Vince

Vince,
Wanna come on over and sweet talk mine? bring beer and a hammer.
Its doing the shotgun thing for 5 to 10 shots 1.5 to 3" @ 100 m, gets its act together around 15 shots down to .6" for 5 or so shots and then goes back to shotgunning.
Frustration is now my middle name, so bad in fact I've purchased a .308.
2 gunsmiths cant find anything wrong with the barrel apart from expected wear and cant fault the bedding. New scope new mounts trigger massaged etc.
It does this with 3 different weights of projectiles and 2 different powders and factory rounds as well.
ATM I just shoot it until it goes where I want it on a cold barrel and just run a oiled patch through it, if it gets a through cleaning it shotguns for 15 rds. It thinks its a bloody rimfire......
The plan is to rebarrel it probably to 25/06 as I have all the cases and dies for it.
Just got to decide on Allen Swan or MAB for the barrel work.
The .308 is doing OK after 40 rds, getting around 1.2" with factory ammo and no bedding.

Elvis · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: 25-06 loads

sounds like a right pain in the butt.
Im pleased you have a solution and think how much fun you can have once its been rebarrelled you can take the old barrel for a nice drag behind the car/truck down to the local engineering workshop and use the bandsaw to slice the sucker into 1/2" long sections and then get the gas out and blast the sections till a pile of moulton slag is all that remains. you could wait till it cools and find some other torture to put it to maybe chuck it in the ocean so it can SLOWLY corrode away. that should fix it good and proper, if you take the new barrel along and make it watch its sure to be a good shooter for you.