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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington |
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Oh I see thanks for the reply. I guess I should scratch that out.
Well 1895 you think the 45-70 can be a good varmint round instead or a .50 Beowolf ??
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington |
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Bushmaster
I was kidding and thought about the first 2 large calibers that came into my head both actually having roughtly the same energy as well
The 50 Beowolf was designed to be balisticlly similar to the 45-70 but in a short action lenght.
I dont even know what a 155 mm field howitser looks like
I'm thinking a 223 as its the most popular or maybe even a 243 what you think ??
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington |
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155mm Field howitser has wheels on it and a tongue so it can be pulled from here to there...
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Dawgdad Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington????????? |
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.243 is more versatile and can be used up to deer size game with the 100 gr. bullets. 55 to 75 grain varmint bullets will shoot as fast and flatter than the .223's. I own and use both calibers regularly and the .243 gets my nod at longer ranges. If your shots are in close areas and 200-250 yards would be your max with most shots under 150, either would do the job on vermin up to and including canis latrans.
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington????????? |
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Whats the difference between the 222 Remington Magnum, .223 Remington Magnum, ??
The 243 sounds promising though.
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DallanC Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington????????? |
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Dawgdad wrote: |
.243 is more versatile and can be used up to deer size game with the 100 gr. bullets. |
With properly constructed bullets, it works great on Caribou sized game too. My wife punched holes in one side and out the other with her .243 shooting 100grn Partitions. That bull went 350BC.
.243's really fun rifles, very flexible. For longer shots on deer sized critters its better to go to a 270 or so but for shorter range work I love a 243.
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Dawgdad Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington????????? |
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Hey Dallan,way off topic here but wher do we set the time zone for the post counter? according to the log youu are in Russia somewhere.
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington????????? |
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Go to My Account then Prefernces to change your timezone
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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington????????? |
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Dimitri wrote: |
Whats the difference between the 222 Remington Magnum, .223 Remington Magnum, ?? :-?Dimitri |
The 222 Remington was introduced in about 1950 and is a case all it's own. 50 gr bullet velocity about 3300 fps.
223 Remington (no magnum) started as a military cartridge. 50 gr bullet velocity about 3400 fps.
222 Remington Magnum was introduced in about 1958 and is a lengthened 222 rem case. It was an experimental military designed cartridge. 50 gr bullet velocity about 3400 fps.
22-250 Remington is based on a necked down 250-3000 case and was a wildcat cartridge in the late 30's but Remington made it a commercial round in the late 60's. 50 gr bullet velocity about 3900 fps.
They are all .224 caliber.
Does that help?
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington????????? |
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The 222 Remington Mag doesnt offer that much of a preformance over the normal.
I wonder what one is easyer to get your hands on in terms of brass and the like.
Dimitri
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roklok Super Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington????????? |
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Bushy,what the h**l is a .223 Remington Magnum? Put a little to much whiskey in that coffee cup of yours? HaHa ,just kidding.By the way what do you have against the .223 ? It has taken care of a lot of varmints in Vietnam,Afghanistan,and Iraq! The 17 Remington is a great caliber for smaller furbearers where minimum pelt damage is desired.
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: No one uses the 17 Remington????????? |
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Dimitri wrote: |
I wonder what one is easyer to get your hands on in terms of brass and the like. :-?Dimitri |
I can't speak for any place else, but around here brass is easy enough to get for all except maybe the 222 rem mag, but i'm not sure cause I haven't looked for any except for my 22-250.
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