HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: JohnMill
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 1
Overall: 12423

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 139
BOT: 4
Total: 143
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Photo Albums
03: Forums
04: Forums
05: Forums
06: Your Account
07: Forums
08: Forums
09: Your Account
10: Forums
11: Photo Albums
12: Forums
13: Forums
14: Home
15: Forums
16: Forums
17: Forums
18: Forums
19: Forums
20: Forums
21: Forums
22: Forums
23: Forums
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Home
27: Photo Albums
28: Photo Albums
29: Forums
30: Photo Albums
31: Forums
32: Forums
33: Forums
34: Forums
35: Forums
36: Forums
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Forums
40: Forums
41: Forums
42: Forums
43: Forums
44: Photo Albums
45: Photo Albums
46: Your Account
47: Forums
48: Home
49: Forums
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: Photo Albums
53: Forums
54: Forums
55: Forums
56: Photo Albums
57: Forums
58: Forums
59: Forums
60: Photo Albums
61: Forums
62: Forums
63: Photo Albums
64: Forums
65: Forums
66: Photo Albums
67: Home
68: Forums
69: Photo Albums
70: Your Account
71: Forums
72: Forums
73: Photo Albums
74: Forums
75: Forums
76: Forums
77: Forums
78: Forums
79: Photo Albums
80: Forums
81: Forums
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Photo Albums
85: Photo Albums
86: Forums
87: Forums
88: Forums
89: Forums
90: Forums
91: Forums
92: Forums
93: Forums
94: Photo Albums
95: Photo Albums
96: Forums
97: Forums
98: Forums
99: Forums
100: Forums
101: Forums
102: Forums
103: Photo Albums
104: Forums
105: Your Account
106: Forums
107: Forums
108: Photo Albums
109: Forums
110: Photo Albums
111: Forums
112: Forums
113: Photo Albums
114: Forums
115: Forums
116: Forums
117: Forums
118: Forums
119: Forums
120: Forums
121: Forums
122: Forums
123: Forums
124: Forums
125: Forums
126: Photo Albums
127: Forums
128: Home
129: Forums
130: Forums
131: Forums
132: Forums
133: Forums
134: Photo Albums
135: Forums
136: Forums
137: Forums
138: Forums
139: Statistics
  BOT:
01: Your Account
02: Forums
03: Forums
04: Your Account

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 300
 Pictures: 2357
  · Views: 275075
  · Votes: 1295
  · Comments: 86
 

Support our Advertisers

BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR
Big Game Hunting topics that dont fit other categories
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Big Game Hunting

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
BUCKBUSTER
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Jun 08, 2007
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:09 am    Post subject: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

ANYBODY SHOOT BEAR W/ A MUZZLELOADER? ANY SUGGESTIONS ON 50 CAL. LOAD AND BULLET?
Back to top
View user's profile
1895ss
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 21, 2005
Posts: 2613
Location: West of Here!!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

BUCKBUSTER wrote:
ANYBODY SHOOT BEAR W/ A MUZZLELOADER?

I'm always dressed when I go out shooting any of my guns, but welcome aboard BUCKBUSTER, and quit hollering............ Smile I have no suggestion on a load for you though........... Sad

_________________
A cruel truth is much more desirable than a really nice lie.
'Tis far better to walk alone than to follow a crowd or an a**hole going the wrong way.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
tracker
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 08, 2006
Posts: 1175
Location: Manitoba, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

1895ss wrote:
I'm always dressed when I go out shooting any of my guns, (

how very reassuring Smile Smile Smile

_________________
"If God hadn't meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!"
Back to top
View user's profile
Jack
Member
Member


Joined: Oct 19, 2005
Posts: 98

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

Black bears aren't armored like tanks, but they are a bit thicker than a deer. For that reason, I would avoid using a saboted pistol bullet, as they don't penetrate as well as some other ML projectiles.
If you are a bullet caster, Lee makes a really inexpensive mold for a 50 cal Minie ball that works very well in my 50. I would feel quite confident hunting black bear with the Minie ball, which weighs about 360 grains.
Back to top
View user's profile
Deleted_User_2665
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 06, 2006
Posts: 380

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

Jack wrote:
Black bears aren't armored like tanks, but they are a bit thicker than a deer. For that reason, I would avoid using a saboted pistol bullet, as they don't penetrate as well as some other ML projectiles.

Black Bear die easy and bein' savvy on shot placement is what counts.......

I'd poke one with a 240 XTP/110 grains of Goex and never think twice about it.

It'd be almost like cheatin'...............
Back to top
View user's profile
roklok
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Aug 11, 2005
Posts: 607
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

I have to agree with Jack on this one, I have never shot a bear with a muzzleloader but if I was going to try I would use a fairly heavy full caliber conical. As far as black bear dieing easy, I guess any animal on the planet will die easy if hit perfectly. The thing with black bears is there are so many different sizes and even a small bear is heavier boned than a deer. If you encounter a truly large black bear (500 lb plus) and hit a shoulder I would have much more confidence in a heavy conical to penetrate to the vitals. I have witnessed a smallish black bear hang onto life with amazing tenacity on one occasion. My buddy shot one a bit far back with a 30-06 which clipped one lung. We found it still alive in some thick stuff about an hour later and he shot it again with the '06 in the shoulder, bullet angled forward breaking the spine and exiting the neck right behind the ear on the off side. We approached and found the bear still breathing. I gave my buddy my .357 loaded with 140 grain hollow point because he didnt want to blow another hole in hide with '06. He shot it with .357 through the lungs and it just kept on breathing. No change whatsoever. So he shot it again in the chest with '06 which finished it. I am sure that if he had put the first shot squarely through both lungs that would have finished it but in the real world things are not that easy, especially if you are not hunting over bait.
Back to top
View user's profile
tracker
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 08, 2006
Posts: 1175
Location: Manitoba, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

roklok wrote:
but in the real world things are not that easy,

Everything that needs to be said about any kind of hunting right there. Amen to that Roklok

_________________
"If God hadn't meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!"
Back to top
View user's profile
Deleted_User_2665
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 06, 2006
Posts: 380

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

Bear ain't deer for sho.....and their vitals ain't in the same place in relation to where they are in a deer.

Deer hunters hunting bear who put a slug in a bear where they would a deer will come up short....and in need of more holes.

Knowing bear anatomy is golden, knowing when not to shoot is priceless....

Bear die easy if you understand that............
Back to top
View user's profile
keetoowah
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Mar 20, 2007
Posts: 691
Location: Deep in the mountains of Montana

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

anything dies easy if you understand it.

wouldnt you say??

_________________
If you shoot at mimes, should you use a silencer?
Back to top
View user's profile
Deleted_User_2665
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 06, 2006
Posts: 380

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

Killin' stuff is hard to make idiot proof.......

Not much on the NA continent I'd fear pokin' a saboted pistol bullet into via scoped inline and stiff charge of Goex FFg.....unless I lost complete touch with common sense and my own savvy.

There's limitations on both sides of trigger and if you work within them boundaries you can rule the world............
Back to top
View user's profile
BUCKBUSTER
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Jun 08, 2007
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I'm considering using a 300-350 grain barnes x bullet w/ 110-120 grains pyrodex. Anyone used these bullets in a ML. Info from randywakeman.com sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Just wanted other opinions.

This will be my second bear hunt. Dropped a 400 pounder last year w/ a .270 wsm but want to try ML this year.
Back to top
View user's profile
Deleted_User_2665
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 06, 2006
Posts: 380

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

Wakeman is a pimp for Savage and extolls a lotta BS in that regard.....have argued plenty with him on other things and thus my opinion.

I use Barnes X's in my CF's and can think a Barnes X out of a ML could only mean good things.

My standard for a long time has been the XTP nonmag bullet since I found out they are so good at killin'.

I must admit I'd been wanting to try the plastic tipped Barnes ML X's since they came out.........
Back to top
View user's profile
Vince
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 12985
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: BEST LOAD FOR BLACK BEAR Reply with quote

1895ss wrote:
I'm always dressed when I go out shooting any of my guns, Sad

Dang.....thank goodness for that. I mean, a naked 1895ss Marlin shooter EEEEEEWWWwwwwww.......that is one scary thought.
Very Happy Laughing Very Happy Laughing Very Happy Laughing

Cheers, Vince

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Big Game Hunting
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 7 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Advertisements
 


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.