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219Zipper Member
Joined: Nov 09, 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject: 410 reloading |
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Its good to see that I am not the only one that wants to reload 410! I wanted to mention to all of you that I am looking for a GOOD progressive to reload 410 and 20 and any and all of the components that go with it.
I am just getting set up here for pistol and rifle reloading and am eager to get full on into shotgun too. I want some deadly crow loads so I can do my part to rid the world of some of em.
I looked at a nice Ponsness Warren this weekend but he wanted $650 and while it was mint and like new, I also knew he had probably owned it 35+ yrs and loaded 25k shells with it...so I felt he was being a wee bit greedy and passed on it. Nice guy, nice progressive but too rich for my blood!
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9232 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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keep looking something will turn up. you can buy new lee shot shell loaders for less than that!!!
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lesterg3 Super Member
Joined: Nov 30, 2008 Posts: 1328 Location: Dixie
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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Used to load 12 ga, long long time ago.
And will most likely start loading .410 and 12 ga again. First set-up I had was some kind of Lee, bought used for about 25 bucks. Worked great. Will go with Lee again when I start.
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219Zipper Member
Joined: Nov 09, 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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Elvis, I spent quite a bit of time on the S Island both enroute to and from the Ice.
Loved camping back in the Southern Alps and taking a brisk swim in the ol Waimak first thing in the morning while the coffee was perking, not sure which woke me up more.
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9232 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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Yip its a nice place to live alright especially on a day like today weve had 2"of rain now the sun is out, sheer bliss.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
Joined: Sep 20, 2010 Posts: 2984 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:28 am Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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219Zipper:
Check E-bay, I've seen a few Mec 410 shotshell re-loaders go for $60.
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15697 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:28 am Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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Ominivision1 wrote: |
219Zipper:
Check E-bay, I've seen a few Mec 410 shotshell re-loaders go for $60. |
Yep...I agree OV1. I am watching Fleabay for the same reason, although I'm looking for a reasonably priced 12g progressive.
Here are a couple on Ebay at what I would consider to be a brilliant price, and it is not expensive to convert them to .410...all of the MEC bits are available, and you will have a 12g press as well.
www.ebay.com.au/itm/12...43aae0cccb
www.ebay.com.au/itm/ME...519bb79654
In my mind, the MEC is the press of choice, although Hornady also make a quality product. If you want a progressive, then I would opt for the MEC. You can also add the optional hydraulic mecahnism to the MEC.
Lester mentioned the LEE press...I have a LEE LoadAll that I use for 12g and it is a great little entry level press, but it is single stage and take a bit of time to load 100 rounds.
The Ponsness Warren was one of the best, top of the line, presses in its day, but the are a little outdated now, and I believe it can be difficult to get parts when they wear out. They are also fairly sizeable and are really designed for loading large quantities of cartridges at a time.
Cheers, Vince
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219Zipper Member
Joined: Nov 09, 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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Omni / Vince:
Thanks for the suggestions, cant beat a price of $65 for a reloader in this day and age!
With the fresh snow falling last night, it renewed my interest in reloading so that I have things to keep me busy during the long winter nights here in Minnesota. I will pay close attn to the auctions to see if there are any really great deals to be had.
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RePete Super Member
Joined: Aug 15, 2005 Posts: 1034 Location: Gods Country
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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Here's the Caddy of reloaders, the Spolar.
www.spolargold.com/prices.htm
PW are great too.
The MEC has a problem loading the .410.
I used to reload .410 but gave up as it was a PITA.
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219Zipper Member
Joined: Nov 09, 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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Amazing looking unit! I haven't even heard of em.
I can tell right off the bat that they will be out of my price range. lol
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RePete Super Member
Joined: Aug 15, 2005 Posts: 1034 Location: Gods Country
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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May I suggest that you forget the .410 and consider a 20ga.
Ammo is cheaper, and if you decide to reload that, then get a MEC 600JR. Components (wads) are easier to find and you can't say that for .410.
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TRBLSHTR Super Member
Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 1071 Location: Lower 48's-left coast(near portlandia)
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inthedark Super Member
Joined: Jan 31, 2011 Posts: 913 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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Vince wrote: |
Ominivision1 wrote: |
219Zipper:
Check E-bay, I've seen a few Mec 410 shotshell re-loaders go for $60. |
Yep...I agree OV1. I am watching Fleabay for the same reason, although I'm looking for a reasonably priced 12g progressive.
Here are a couple on Ebay at what I would consider to be a brilliant price, and it is not expensive to convert them to .410...all of the MEC bits are available, and you will have a 12g press as well.
www.ebay.com.au/itm/12...43aae0cccb
www.ebay.com.au/itm/ME...519bb79654
In my mind, the MEC is the press of choice, although Hornady also make a quality product. If you want a progressive, then I would opt for the MEC. You can also add the optional hydraulic mecahnism to the MEC.
Lester mentioned the LEE press...I have a LEE LoadAll that I use for 12g and it is a great little entry level press, but it is single stage and take a bit of time to load 100 rounds.
The Ponsness Warren was one of the best, top of the line, presses in its day, but the are a little outdated now, and I believe it can be difficult to get parts when they wear out. They are also fairly sizeable and are really designed for loading large quantities of cartridges at a time.
Cheers, Vince |
My buddy has a P-W press 6 station metallic I believe and without a doubt, it is the sweetest progressive that I have ever used. The problem with the press isn't with the press itself but with the owners who attach a motor to it and automate the process and it almost always puts stresses on the press that it was not designed for. And as very few if any of these guys are/were actually engineers who had two brain cells to rub together you really have to be careful with buying a used one. If I could talk my buddie into selling me his I would buy it in a minute. He said that he got it brand new in 70 71 and paid 425$ for it. It is truly a beautiful piece of equipment. I just went on their website www.reloaders.com/inde...ucts_id=56 and the Metallic II goes for 479$ Now that is not a great change in 40years is it.
Chimo
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9232 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:23 am Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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RePete wrote: |
May I suggest that you forget the .410 and consider a 20ga.
Ammo is cheaper, and if you decide to reload that, then get a MEC 600JR. Components (wads) are easier to find and you can't say that for .410. |
claybuster wads are readily available on the net we get them through trade me. I wont have a .20ga in the house with a .12ga aswell, the ramifications of an ammo mix up send chills down my spine. the rest of the components are easy as to get.
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Aloysius Super Member
Joined: Nov 03, 2009 Posts: 2434 Location: B., Belgium
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:28 am Post subject: Re: 410 reloading |
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Elvis, you're strange. I myself often take several guns to the dove-hunting, several calibers, even doubles with 1 or 2 triggers. When all goes too well, you take a more difficult gun. When doves are only passing high, you end up using a cal 12 trapgun.
And alltough I have cal 12, 16 and 20 (and sometimes even 24 and/or .410/36), in my pockets...
it's more dangerous in my opinion to mix 3" and 2 3/4" shells in cal 12 as here most cal 12 guns are no 3" (or more. This "magnum-disease" still didn't hit our part of the world)
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