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Use 270win dies for '06???
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

I am getting two Garands from CMP in the next couple months.
I currently have Redding S-type dies for the .270win. Can I use these with the appropriate bushings for the "06?

If not, do any of have some "06 dies you no longer need? Razz

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

NO, the dies are .277 in for 270win, the 30/06 is .308

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

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NO, the dies are .277 in for 270win, the 30/06 is .308

The .270win is a necked down '06 case that is a little longer. So what part of the '06 will not fit in the S-type bushing die? Is the body actually bigger, the shoulder in a different position or ....?

Please expound on you answer.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

A quick email to Redding should get you the definitive answer.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

English Mike wrote:
A quick email to Redding should get you the definitive answer.

Thanks, email is on the way. I will post what they say.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

The shoulder area of the .270 is .047 longer than the 30-06, this will place the bushing in the wrong place.

I believe the longer taper of the .270 will create a situation in-which the neck/shoulder junction will be under .308

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

Dies are dirt cheap compared to an "issue".
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

chambered221 wrote:
The shoulder area of the .270 is .047 longer than the 30-06, this will place the bushing in the wrong place.

I believe the longer taper of the .270 will create a situation in-which the neck/shoulder junction will be under .308

The longer shoulder is because it starts in the same place as the 30-06 but has to continue further due to the smaller neck diameter of the .270. Never having seen a bushing die, I wouldn't know if this is important.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

Stovey hit the nail on the head there!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

Dies are 30-40$. Less than a box of premium hunting ammo.

Least that can happen experimenting w/ something not noted in a manual? A crunched case/boogered die.

Worst that can happen?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

Stovey, If he wants a Redding (like he uses for the .270) type S FL re-size it's $53.00 plus $14 (standard) or $22 (titanium) for the bushing and still needs a seating die !!!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

I should have said SOME dies....either or. I can see the attraction and the temptation for cross-over applications. But, it aint me. Dies can last a lifetime. A worthwile investment in my book, esp for the right tool for the job. Just my .02 and don't mean to be a wet blanket guys.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

Thanks for all the input guys.

Here is what Redding sent me;

Hi Ray


Thank you for using Redding Reloading Equipment. Redding's policy is you can go up or down one caliber with a bushing die. The 30-06 and 270 Win is two calibers. I checked a 30-06 Springfield fired case in a 270 Win Type S Neck Die and the neck would be sized by the pass thru hole and not the bushing.


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Redding Reloading Equipment
1089 Starr Road
Cortland, NY 13045
(607) 753-3331


cscf @ redding-reloading.com

So, I will get the Full Length Type-S die from Redding, I can use the seating die that I have.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Use 270win dies for '06??? Reply with quote

Thanks Padd, always good to get it straight from the source.

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