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Where is the point count dividing line?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:41 pm    Post subject: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

I know that a sone travels East from Wyoming, at some spot on the map the point count on a deer changes.

Out here, only one side is counted, i.e. a " 4 point buck" would have 4 points on each side. While this same buck would be an " 8 pointer" farther east.

If the count is different from side to side then we say it is a 4 by 5 or a 5 by 6. Does the Eastern point count work the same in those cases or would those bucks be a 9 point and 11 point?

And just where is the dividing line? Michigan, The Mississippi River?

Just curious

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

I can only add that in Minnesota the point count is the total points, same in Iowa, Wisconsin, Missouri. I was once informed that the Western Count was a count that began where Mule Deer Habitat began and that originally was a way to differenciate between Whitetail & Mule Deer. I don't know if this is true but if you take a poll I believe that you would find that the two follow very close.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

Whitetail = count everything.

Mule Deer outside of Wyoming, count each point per side, ignore eyeguards.

Mule Deer in Wyoming, count each side including eye guards.

I have no idea why this is but that seems to be the majorty way it works out.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

Last I checked...Oregon, Washington and california count one side, but not the eye guards. If odd sides 2 X 3 and so on...That includes elk.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

Here in NJ you count the total # of points from both sides..
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

I've always heard the line that Flint is going by ..
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

Dallan, I don't know who you have been hanging out with in Wyoming, but no one I know counts the eye guards. Maybe just outfitters trying to make the deer sound bigger.

I don't know, but the mule deer/ whitetail dividing line sounds as plausible as anything.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

mikekuzara wrote:
Dallan, I don't know who you have been hanging out with in Wyoming, but no one I know counts the eye guards. Maybe just outfitters trying to make the deer sound bigger.

I've seen it very often in magazines like Outdoorlife etc etc and they always refer to it as "wyoming count". I've also seen "wyoming count" mentioned on two different Buckmasters tv shows during muley hunts as well as numorous message posts around the net.

One thing to note: B&C *DOES* count eyeguards when scoring.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

Considering that both Boone and Crocket never crossed the Mississippi River I could understand why the B&C count all points including the eye guards. Growing up I was always told to count only one side and the eyeguards did not count. Personally it doesn't matter. When I hear of a point count of an eastern deer hunter I aways divide it by two and subtract two for the eye guards. Now I have a fairly accurate count.

Sounds like a war brewing in the east.....

Wow...That means that 3 point Blacktail I shot a couple of years ago is really an 8 point. Can you amagin my supprize when I found out when I was around mid teens that when a hunter shot a 4 point and I was all adrool then to find out he had only shot a forked horn...What a let down...L O L Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:59 am    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

I am a fourth generation Wyoming Native. I know, literally, a hundred or more hunters from here. None of them count the eyeguards, I called around and asked 20 or so of my hunting buddies just to be sure.

It may be called a "Wyoming Count" but in your list of people using it, it didn't sound like any of them were from Wyoming. I think the so called "Wyoming Count" may be a bastard hybrid of Eastern/Western counting. A case of the eastern writers and TV hosts being unable to give up counting the eyeguards.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Where is the point count dividing line? Reply with quote

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