HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: RichardZ
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 13126

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 721
BOT: 2
Total: 723
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Forums
04: Forums
05: Forums
06: Forums
07: Forums
08: Forums
09: Forums
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Forums
14: Photo Albums
15: Forums
16: Home
17: Forums
18: Forums
19: Forums
20: Your Account
21: Photo Albums
22: Forums
23: Forums
24: Your Account
25: Forums
26: Your Account
27: Forums
28: Forums
29: Your Account
30: Your Account
31: Your Account
32: Forums
33: Forums
34: Forums
35: Forums
36: Forums
37: Home
38: Forums
39: Your Account
40: Forums
41: Forums
42: Home
43: Forums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Forums
47: Home
48: Forums
49: Forums
50: Forums
51: Your Account
52: Home
53: Forums
54: Photo Albums
55: Forums
56: Forums
57: Home
58: Photo Albums
59: Forums
60: Forums
61: Photo Albums
62: Forums
63: Forums
64: Forums
65: Your Account
66: Forums
67: Forums
68: Forums
69: Photo Albums
70: Photo Albums
71: Forums
72: Forums
73: Forums
74: Forums
75: Forums
76: Forums
77: Home
78: Forums
79: Photo Albums
80: Forums
81: Forums
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Photo Albums
85: Forums
86: Your Account
87: Forums
88: Your Account
89: Home
90: Forums
91: Home
92: Forums
93: Forums
94: Home
95: Forums
96: Forums
97: Forums
98: Forums
99: Forums
100: Photo Albums
101: News
102: Home
103: Forums
104: Forums
105: Forums
106: Your Account
107: Forums
108: Forums
109: Forums
110: Forums
111: Forums
112: Forums
113: Photo Albums
114: Forums
115: Your Account
116: Your Account
117: Forums
118: Your Account
119: Forums
120: Forums
121: Forums
122: Forums
123: Photo Albums
124: Home
125: Forums
126: Forums
127: Forums
128: Photo Albums
129: Forums
130: Forums
131: Home
132: Your Account
133: Home
134: Photo Albums
135: Photo Albums
136: Forums
137: Forums
138: Forums
139: Forums
140: Home
141: Forums
142: Forums
143: Photo Albums
144: Forums
145: Photo Albums
146: Your Account
147: Your Account
148: Your Account
149: Your Account
150: Forums
151: Forums
152: Forums
153: Your Account
154: Forums
155: Forums
156: Forums
157: Forums
158: Forums
159: Your Account
160: Forums
161: Your Account
162: Your Account
163: Your Account
164: Photo Albums
165: Home
166: Forums
167: Forums
168: Home
169: Forums
170: Forums
171: Forums
172: Home
173: Forums
174: Forums
175: Your Account
176: Forums
177: Your Account
178: Your Account
179: Forums
180: Forums
181: Forums
182: Forums
183: Forums
184: Forums
185: Forums
186: Your Account
187: Photo Albums
188: Forums
189: Photo Albums
190: Forums
191: Your Account
192: Your Account
193: Forums
194: Forums
195: Forums
196: Forums
197: Forums
198: Forums
199: Forums
200: Photo Albums
201: Forums
202: Statistics
203: Home
204: Forums
205: Forums
206: Forums
207: Forums
208: Forums
209: Photo Albums
210: Forums
211: Forums
212: Your Account
213: Forums
214: Forums
215: Your Account
216: Forums
217: Your Account
218: Photo Albums
219: Forums
220: Forums
221: Home
222: Home
223: Forums
224: Home
225: Forums
226: Forums
227: Forums
228: Home
229: Forums
230: Forums
231: Forums
232: Forums
233: Forums
234: Forums
235: Forums
236: Forums
237: News
238: Your Account
239: Forums
240: Forums
241: Photo Albums
242: Forums
243: Forums
244: Forums
245: Your Account
246: Forums
247: Forums
248: Forums
249: Your Account
250: Photo Albums
251: Home
252: Home
253: Forums
254: Forums
255: Statistics
256: Forums
257: Forums
258: Forums
259: Photo Albums
260: Forums
261: Forums
262: Home
263: Home
264: Forums
265: Forums
266: Photo Albums
267: Photo Albums
268: Forums
269: Photo Albums
270: Photo Albums
271: Forums
272: Your Account
273: Home
274: Forums
275: Forums
276: Your Account
277: Forums
278: Forums
279: Your Account
280: Forums
281: Forums
282: Forums
283: Forums
284: Forums
285: Forums
286: Forums
287: Forums
288: Forums
289: Your Account
290: Forums
291: Your Account
292: Forums
293: Forums
294: Forums
295: Home
296: Photo Albums
297: Forums
298: Forums
299: Forums
300: Forums
301: Forums
302: Forums
303: Forums
304: Forums
305: Forums
306: Forums
307: Forums
308: Forums
309: Forums
310: Your Account
311: Your Account
312: Forums
313: Forums
314: Forums
315: Forums
316: Forums
317: Your Account
318: Your Account
319: Home
320: Forums
321: Forums
322: Photo Albums
323: Forums
324: Forums
325: Forums
326: Forums
327: Forums
328: Forums
329: Forums
330: Forums
331: Forums
332: Forums
333: Your Account
334: Forums
335: Forums
336: Forums
337: Forums
338: Forums
339: Forums
340: Forums
341: Home
342: Statistics
343: Photo Albums
344: Forums
345: Forums
346: Forums
347: Forums
348: Photo Albums
349: Forums
350: Forums
351: Your Account
352: Forums
353: Forums
354: Forums
355: Your Account
356: Forums
357: Photo Albums
358: Photo Albums
359: Forums
360: Forums
361: Forums
362: Forums
363: Forums
364: Photo Albums
365: Forums
366: Forums
367: Forums
368: Forums
369: Forums
370: Forums
371: Forums
372: Forums
373: Forums
374: Home
375: Forums
376: Forums
377: Photo Albums
378: Forums
379: Forums
380: Your Account
381: Forums
382: Forums
383: Forums
384: Forums
385: Photo Albums
386: Forums
387: Forums
388: Photo Albums
389: Forums
390: Forums
391: Forums
392: Forums
393: Forums
394: Your Account
395: Photo Albums
396: Home
397: Forums
398: Forums
399: Forums
400: Forums
401: Your Account
402: Home
403: Forums
404: Forums
405: Forums
406: Your Account
407: Forums
408: Forums
409: Photo Albums
410: Forums
411: Photo Albums
412: Forums
413: Forums
414: Forums
415: Forums
416: Home
417: News
418: Forums
419: Forums
420: Your Account
421: Forums
422: Forums
423: Forums
424: Forums
425: Forums
426: Forums
427: Forums
428: Forums
429: Forums
430: Forums
431: Your Account
432: Your Account
433: Forums
434: Forums
435: Forums
436: Forums
437: Forums
438: Forums
439: Forums
440: Photo Albums
441: Forums
442: Your Account
443: Home
444: Forums
445: Photo Albums
446: Your Account
447: Forums
448: Photo Albums
449: Forums
450: Forums
451: Forums
452: Forums
453: Home
454: Forums
455: Forums
456: Your Account
457: Forums
458: Forums
459: Forums
460: Forums
461: Forums
462: Forums
463: Forums
464: Your Account
465: Your Account
466: Your Account
467: Forums
468: Your Account
469: Your Account
470: Forums
471: Forums
472: Forums
473: Forums
474: Forums
475: Photo Albums
476: Photo Albums
477: Photo Albums
478: Forums
479: Forums
480: Photo Albums
481: Forums
482: Forums
483: Forums
484: Forums
485: Forums
486: Forums
487: Forums
488: Forums
489: Home
490: News
491: Forums
492: Your Account
493: Forums
494: Forums
495: Forums
496: Forums
497: Forums
498: Forums
499: Photo Albums
500: Forums
501: Forums
502: Forums
503: Home
504: Forums
505: Forums
506: Home
507: Forums
508: Forums
509: Forums
510: Forums
511: Home
512: Photo Albums
513: Forums
514: Forums
515: Your Account
516: Forums
517: Forums
518: Forums
519: Forums
520: Forums
521: Home
522: Forums
523: Home
524: Forums
525: Forums
526: Forums
527: Forums
528: Your Account
529: Forums
530: Forums
531: Photo Albums
532: Forums
533: Your Account
534: Forums
535: Forums
536: Forums
537: Forums
538: Forums
539: Forums
540: Forums
541: Forums
542: Photo Albums
543: Photo Albums
544: Forums
545: Home
546: Forums
547: Forums
548: Forums
549: Forums
550: Forums
551: Forums
552: Photo Albums
553: Forums
554: Photo Albums
555: Photo Albums
556: Forums
557: Forums
558: Forums
559: Forums
560: Home
561: Photo Albums
562: Your Account
563: Your Account
564: Forums
565: Forums
566: Home
567: Forums
568: Photo Albums
569: Forums
570: Forums
571: Forums
572: Forums
573: Forums
574: Photo Albums
575: Forums
576: Forums
577: Forums
578: Forums
579: Forums
580: Forums
581: Forums
582: Forums
583: Home
584: Forums
585: Forums
586: Forums
587: Forums
588: Forums
589: Forums
590: Forums
591: Forums
592: Forums
593: Forums
594: Forums
595: Forums
596: Forums
597: Forums
598: Forums
599: Forums
600: Forums
601: Forums
602: Forums
603: Forums
604: Forums
605: Photo Albums
606: Forums
607: Forums
608: Home
609: Photo Albums
610: Your Account
611: Forums
612: Home
613: Your Account
614: Your Account
615: Forums
616: Forums
617: Photo Albums
618: Photo Albums
619: Forums
620: Forums
621: Forums
622: Your Account
623: Forums
624: Forums
625: Forums
626: Photo Albums
627: Forums
628: Forums
629: Photo Albums
630: Forums
631: Your Account
632: Forums
633: Forums
634: Forums
635: Forums
636: Forums
637: Your Account
638: Forums
639: Home
640: Home
641: Forums
642: Forums
643: Your Account
644: Forums
645: Photo Albums
646: Forums
647: Forums
648: Your Account
649: Forums
650: Photo Albums
651: Forums
652: Forums
653: Forums
654: Forums
655: Forums
656: Home
657: Forums
658: Forums
659: Forums
660: Photo Albums
661: Your Account
662: Forums
663: Forums
664: Photo Albums
665: Forums
666: Forums
667: Forums
668: Forums
669: Home
670: Your Account
671: Forums
672: Forums
673: Forums
674: Your Account
675: Forums
676: Forums
677: Photo Albums
678: Forums
679: Home
680: Your Account
681: Forums
682: Your Account
683: Your Account
684: Your Account
685: Your Account
686: Forums
687: Your Account
688: Forums
689: Your Account
690: Forums
691: Forums
692: Photo Albums
693: Forums
694: Forums
695: Forums
696: Forums
697: Forums
698: Forums
699: Your Account
700: Forums
701: Forums
702: Forums
703: Photo Albums
704: Forums
705: Forums
706: Forums
707: Forums
708: Forums
709: Forums
710: Home
711: Photo Albums
712: Your Account
713: Forums
714: Forums
715: Forums
716: Home
717: Forums
718: Home
719: Forums
720: Forums
721: Forums
  BOT:
01: Home
02: Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 308
 Pictures: 2451
  · Views: 820725
  · Votes: 1316
  · Comments: 86
 

.300 Win Mag or WSM?
Discussions related to Guns and Firearms
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 8314
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:45 am    Post subject: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

I have a friend that is getting ready to buy a rifle. He asked me what I thought of the .308 or .30-06. My answer to him was a question - What do you want to do with it? He explained he was interested in hunting with a 180gr bullet beyond 300 yards. I told him the .30-06 would be about 100fps better than the .308 with the heavier bullets but he out to consider a .300 Win Mag or WSM at those distances and provided him with some ballistic comparison. He did some more research and told me he agrees.

My question for the forum is which one would you choose, .300 Win Mag or .300 WSM and why?

One advantage of the WSM - it appears to be more efficient with the powder (fps/grain of powder).

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
SingleShotLover
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Dec 26, 2007
Posts: 1005
Location: Illinois

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

slimjim wrote:

One advantage of the WSM - it appears to be more efficient with the powder (fps/grain of powder).

I agree. Ballistics-wise, there isn't enough difference between the two to matter. Whatever you hit with either isn't going to notice the difference! If I had to make the choice, I would lean heavily towards the WSM simply because of what you note...its efficiency.

_________________
If you can't hit it with one, you probably can't with two either!

The biggest problem with a closed mind is that it never seems to come with a closed mouth.

SSL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Grumulkin
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Apr 16, 2007
Posts: 365
Location: Central Ohio

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

If you're buying loaded ammo, it probably doesn't matter. If you're a reloader, then you'll probably find 300 Win. Mag. brass is a bit more available and cheaper so that's why I'd go with that cartridge.

That said, if I ever got the bolt action handgun with the shorter action I've been lusting over for some time, the cartridge I'd choose would be the 300 WSM.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
SingleShotLover
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Dec 26, 2007
Posts: 1005
Location: Illinois

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

Brass issue may well be a good point, as you mentioned. Assuming a person can lay in a supply, reloading is where you would see a marked advantage to the WSM.

As an example:

.300 Winchester Magnum – 180-grain bullet 2,918 fps w/ 67 grains of H4350
.300 WSM - 180-grain bullet 2,950 fps w/ 64 grains of H4350

Granted that this only represents one powder and others may react differently, the above represents a reasonable increase in the efficient use of the load.

Final decisions may all boil down to what rifle of preference is available in the various chamberings too.

_________________
If you can't hit it with one, you probably can't with two either!

The biggest problem with a closed mind is that it never seems to come with a closed mouth.

SSL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Pumpkinslinger
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007
Posts: 5001
Location: NC foothills

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

You could throw the .300 RCM in the mix and then just pick the rifle he likes best. Looks like you could just flip a coin on the cartridges.

"The most recent short magnum cartridges, as of this writing, are the .300 and .338 Ruger Compact Magnums (RCM). These .308 length offerings, developed by Hornady for Ruger, are based on shortened .375 Ruger case. This is a beltless bottleneck case with a rim and head diameter of .532". The RCM's were introduced in 2008.

Hornady offers .300 RCM factory loads with 150, 165 and 180 grain bullets; 200 and 225 grain bullets are offered in the .338 RCM. The performance of the .300 RCM is comparable to that of the other .300 short magnums, while the .338 RCM--a true medium bore cartridge--is comparable to the .350 Rem. Mag. and superior to the .325 WSM.

Note that these RCM cartridges are not rebated rim designs. This means that they offer improved feeding reliability compared to the WSM and SAUM short magnums. As such, they (along with the 6.5mm and .350 Rem. Mags.) are the best designed and most reliable of the short magnum cartridges."

www.chuckhawks.com/sho...agnums.htm

_________________
Mike

"I ain't no better than anybody else, and there ain't nobody better than me!" Ma Kettle
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Bushmaster
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Posts: 11390
Location: Ava, Missouri

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:44 am    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

Considering the recoil factor, cost, variety and availability of components. That fact that there really isn't that much difference between the .300 Win Mag and the .30-06 (a few hundred fps). I'd still go with the .30-06. At 300 yards and the 180 grain bullet [of choice] still hurts whatever it hits.

_________________
I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...

DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote...
Back to top
View user's profile
Ominivision1
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 20, 2010
Posts: 2984
Location: Iowa

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

Bushmaster wrote:
Considering the recoil factor, cost, variety and availability of components. That fact that there really isn't that much difference between the .300 Win Mag and the .30-06 (a few hundred fps). I'd still go with the .30-06. At 300 yards and the 180 grain bullet [of choice] still hurts whatever it hits.

I agree completely, 30/06 is the way to go.

_________________
Regards

Limitations are but boundaries created inside our minds.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
PaulS
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Feb 18, 2006
Posts: 4330
Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

I would ask what critters this guy is going to be shooting at 300 yards with that 180 grain bullet. If he is going after big bears, moose or elk then I might undrstand the desire to use the magnums but for anything smaller than a moose or grizzley then the 3006 is going to be more than enough to kill cleanly if he hits it in the right spot. If he needs more cartridge than the 3006 then I would opt for the 338 mag. It is common enough - the military is using it for sniper rifles - that you can get it in more places than the shot mags.
The amount of powder being used is a small part of the hunting load and a small price to pay for the success of a hunting trip. "Efficient" cartridges use much higher pressure to get their velocities and that is hard on the gun, shooter's ears and shoulder. It is hard to beat the old '06 when it comes to a big game cartridge.

_________________
Paul
__________________
Speer, Lyman, Hodgdon, Sierra, and Hornady = reliable loading data
So and So's pages on the internet = NOT reliable loading data
Always check data against manuals
NEVER exceed maximum listed loads
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 8314
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

Thanks for all the inputs. I knew this topic would spark interest. He wants to hunt elk with a capability to go beyond 300 yards out to 500 yards. For bullets that are solid enough for penetration and still expand effectively, my research shows they need to be going 1800 to 2000 fps. A .30-06 won't have that much steam with a 180gr bullet at 500 yards. I suggested he could load the .300 WSM on the low side of the recommended loads and have just a bit more than the .30-06 with the option to load higher for longer reach. Here is some of the load data I shared with him.

.308 Win

168gr TTSX Varget 41.0gr 2475fps up to 45.5gr 2712fps 101% case capacity
180gr TTSX H4895 38.0gr 2325fps up to 42.0gr 2566fps 97%
180gr TTSX AA2520 44.0gr 2484fps up to 47.5gr 2669fps 98%

.30-06
168gr TTSX IMR 4064 46.5gr 2594fps up to 50.0gr 2801fps 95%
180gr TTSX IMR 4064 44.5gr 2464fos up to 48.0gr 2639fps 94%
180gr TTSX Big Game 49.0gr 2513fps up to 54.0gr 2742fps 98%

.300 Win Mag
168gr TTSX IMR 4831 67.0gr 2921fps up to 73.0gr 3140fps 98%
180gr TTSX IMR 4831 65.0gr 2784fps up to 71.0gr 2995fps 97%

.300 WSM
168gr TTSX Win 760 60.5gr 2898fps up to 65.0gr 3101fps 89%
180gr TTSX RL 19 62.5gr 2771fps up to 69.5gr 3036fps 107%

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Ominivision1
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 20, 2010
Posts: 2984
Location: Iowa

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

Load data taken from 6th (1972 edition) of handloaders digest for the 30/06/.



30-06_loads3.jpeg
 Description:
 Filesize:  24.16 KB
 Viewed:  12995 Time(s)

30-06_loads3.jpeg


30-06_loads2.jpeg
 Description:
 Filesize:  31.74 KB
 Viewed:  12995 Time(s)

30-06_loads2.jpeg


30-06_loads1.jpeg
 Description:
 Filesize:  34.02 KB
 Viewed:  12995 Time(s)

30-06_loads1.jpeg


_________________
Regards

Limitations are but boundaries created inside our minds.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

yip I throw my hat in the 30/06 ring too!!!
if the 180 doesnt seen to have the legs to get out to 500yrds have a long hard look at a lighter projectile surely a 165 or 150 of a solidish construction would be more than suitable.

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 8314
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

Ominivision1 wrote:
Load data taken from 6th (1972 edition) of handloaders digest for the 30/06/.

OV1, your a hoot! Saber-tooth tigers and mastadons! Given a choice, however, I wouldn't hunt with bullet designs from 40 years ago at longer ranges. I want confidence that my bullet is going to arrive where I aim it and will expand, penetrate, and stay intact. The load data you posted for a .30-06 with a 180gr bullet also places muzzle velocity in the 2700fps range. My objective is to still have 2000 fps at 500 yards. Here is what happens down range with this cartridge bullet combinations using a 0.5 BC which I think most of the bullets shown would fall short of. Lighter bullets have faster muzzle velocities but their lower BCs don't help them achieve this objective.



.30-06 down range data for 0.5 bc.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  52.55 KB
 Viewed:  12981 Time(s)

.30-06 down range data for 0.5 bc.jpg


_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

Im sure the thousands of bison that were taken with those "older bullets" would tell you that they worked just fine. the millions of red deer shot in this country using fmj .303 ball ammo would probably tell you the same thing. hit em in the boiler room and they will go down pretty quick smart.

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
ElyBoy
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Apr 04, 2006
Posts: 1541
Location: Forest Lake Minnesota

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

I do like the .300 Win Mag.
I also have shot game with my .338 Win Mag.

However, the gang is very correct that the 180 gr is the load of choice for the 30-06.

My question is why, before a hunt, do you expect to shoot WAY out from 300-500 yards in the first place.
I'm a good shot, but except for one time, I have passed up those type of shots.

I don't mean to be a poop. Just wondering. Very Happy

Eric

_________________
NRA Certified Chief Range Safety Officer
NRA Certified Pistol Instructor
DNR Certified Firearms Safety Instructor
NRA Life Member
Back to top
View user's profile
TRBLSHTR
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Mar 23, 2007
Posts: 1071
Location: Lower 48's-left coast(near portlandia)

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: .300 Win Mag or WSM? Reply with quote

Shocked Not to disparage anyones Ideas on their own personal "beliefs" on magnums vs. standard loads........But as I recall a little bit of history on the 30-06 cartridge;It was originally issued in '03 with a 220 grain projectile,later maybe in '06 to be changed to a 180 grain projectile and adopted by the us military in the standard issue springfield "03A3" type of rifle.I believe it remained with that loading until the second world war,and during its' time from 03 to 1940, it was used by members of the military and others to dispatch humans out to ranges beyond 1000 yds,and by hunters in just about any game hunting throughout the world at all ranges with all types of projectiles,sometime in the 1940's it's bullet was changed to the 150 grain weight.It is an all around cartridge,and has won camp perry and wmbleton rifle matches for many years.The only draw back to it's performance over the "magnums"in 30 caliber is that one has to learn to hold a bit higher on the target at the longer ranges.220,250,and someone even made a special 300 grain bullet for it over the many years of it's existance.I do own a 338 winmag-but it was a special purchase for a brown bear hunt in alaska,and I have seen nothing in the lower 48 that needs that kind of killing potential-except maybe a freight train!FWIW. YMMV:lol:
PS-I even have freinds that own 300 magnums. Razz

_________________
"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." Thomas Mann
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Gun & Firearm Discussions
Page 1 of 3
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by *Dizfunkshunal* :.