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Single stage vs Two stage triggers
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:45 pm    Post subject: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

Gonna upgrade my AR15 24 in varmint riffle trigger. Thinking about a 2 stage. Gun is already more accurate than I am. Whats the pros/cons of a two stage?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

IMO a two stage can add another level of safety when working with a light let-off !!!
I do believe it's more of a personal issue though. My preference would be a good single stage.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

I don't like a trigger to move until it fires. Two stage triggers have too much creep for me. I am also the guy that has his triggers tuned to 4 pound pull, no creep, and no over-travel. I am not sensitive enough to feel a light trigger and I want the gun to fire when I am ready - not a second later and definitely not before.
It is all a matter of preference or necessity.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

It depends. For a varmint rifle and a target rifle my preference would be for a single stage trigger. All the best...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

Hi BPaul!! If the second stage is light--you may not always feel it-- anticipating the feel is something of an art. Cold weather is the worst for that. I modified an old Mauser trigger (calm yourself Chambered) to give me a light second stage and it works great, I love it, but going to another rifle in the same day, with a crisp one stage trigger makes me remember real fast that it's a one stage trigger (if you know what I mean). I think the best bet for me, is a one stage trigger with enough pull that you know it's going to fire. It's really a matter of what I'm used to, I think and, with me, I'd rather have all my rifles single stages. That eliminates the learning curve I have when changing guns, and my brain will always be trained for the one stage. Probably more natural too.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

Chambered221, PaulS, and Gil Martin Yeah me too.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

HEY!!! What about me?






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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

Suz you bring up a very valid point !!! Shooting different guns the same day that is !!!

I found myself in a situation where my 45 was going off before I wanted it to during re-shoots at local IDPA matches. My shoot for score was shot with my 9mm and often I would run my 45 in a re-shoot. The 45 having a lighter let off wouldn’t necessarily be premature but points down were definitely an issue.
Since then I’ve adopted a familiarization/dry fire routine prior to shooting regardless if it’s the first shot of the day, a re-shoot or just sitting at the bench plinking.
Since that implementation I’m yet to have any brain farts of that nature !!! Shocked

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

In general I prefer to dry fire a gun at least once when I'm switching from one to another. Especially if the gun is new to me. I had a friend's match rifle fire when I closed the bolt (luckily it was on the rest and pointed down range) so I got a little wary of that sort of thing.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

I have a 3# single stage Timney on my .243 and a 4.5 # two stage match trigger on my Service rifle competition gun. If I go from the single to the two stage not really and issue but go from the two stage to the single... and you may let one go before you are ready!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

Dawgdad, Is the two stage required for service rifle competition ??? I know they have a minimum requirement for let off.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

I do know that I still cannot get used to firing a single stage trigger no matter how many times I use one of my dads shotguns. Using and starting with military rifles made me get into the habit of a 2 stage. As Dawgdad mentioned, I've let off a round or 2 early from a shotgun. Embarassed

Personally I'd go with a 2 stage any chance I get. With a light let off in a safe range I don't see why a single stage would preform better then a 2 stage anyways.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

This is a good topic. I have bin wanting to do something with my Ar's trigger a well and have bin wondering witch way to go. This is good info guys keep it coming Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

sorry suz looks like we posted at the same time yours wasn't there when I composed mine so here ya go. "YEAH WHAT SHE SAID!!"

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Single stage vs Two stage triggers Reply with quote

WHEW!!........ Thanks Fnuser (I knew that, I just wanted to rile ya)
Well anyway I was thinkin about the trigger thing and I was thinking that if you really wanted a 2 stage trigger, I think I would go with a single or double set trigger. A single set, you push forward first to set the trigger, then pull to fire, I think you can also just pull and fire, if you want to. A double set is two triggers, one to set the trigger, one to fire. These seem safest to me (that's my opinion) if you want 2 stages, it's more obvious and your brain can be trained faster probably. (My brain) A double set trigger makes a lot of sense for target and varmint, to give you some concentration time, and it would also sort of "set' your brain too. Hhhmmm I think I'll get one....Brownells has a Mauser double set trigger for only $203, and a single set for about the same, that's a lot of beads to sell. (Old Indian joke) If I had a 1967 Z28 Camaro to sell.....Here's a nice article on the subject HERE


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