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Handloader Super Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:36 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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Experimentation can take many forms, but, to obtain meaningful data in max pressure tests, a piezo strain gauge would be an asset. I have no problem with max pressure tests and have conducted numerous ones over the years. It is important to differentiate between such testing and real world reloading.
I use a piezo on some rifles for strain testing and correlating loads and pressures as well as the affect of variables. When conducting such tests, all firing is done remotely and from a distance.
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SingleShotLover Super Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:45 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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I guess all that remains is a simple question...."Why??"
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allenpmw Member
Joined: Mar 09, 2009 Posts: 35 Location: utah
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:08 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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I gess the anser is why not?
Just like the 33-378 I had a guy tell me he blew his barrel apart frome condensation. Was that what did it or was it somthing els? This is a 1 1/4 straight taper barrel. So my sons and I found out.
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allenpmw Member
Joined: Mar 09, 2009 Posts: 35 Location: utah
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:13 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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I always have the question witch action is stronger. ruger. rem. sav.
The ansere was always well I think its ?
So we found out.
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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$$$$$$$$$$!!!
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wiersy111 Super Member
Joined: May 13, 2009 Posts: 2376 Location: Central Minnesota
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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That pretty much says everything.
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stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: ok.....now I'v read everything. |
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So...how was the accuracy with some of these loads?
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6th shot 128 gr w 748 blew barrel 40 feet down range!
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Oh, wait..... nevermind.
Pics?
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allenpmw Member
Joined: Mar 09, 2009 Posts: 35 Location: utah
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:06 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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stovepipe
I dont know but I wish I would have set up a crony!
Those vol. should have been through the roof!!!!!
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stovepipe Super Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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Through the roof? Along with the chrony and, the breech?
I think you passed the point of diminishing returns before things Kaboomed.
Interesting post though. Never actually knew someone that tested FA's to failure, multiple times.
And what do you do for income? Rob banks? Them's some expensive fire-works.
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:43 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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He is a gunsmith, probably has a stack of old rifles from past customers he could try this on, after all its only his time right?
Remington's M700 will hold up better then a Pre-64 Winchester, I'd be willing to bet the farm on that (if I had a farm that is). This has been shown before to be the case.
This is one of the reasons the USMC adopted the M700 over the Winchester that was claimed to be superior, and its also one of the reasons up until the new M24 chambered in 338 Lapua were never installed with that well "loved" Sako (or M16) extractor many claim is a "must" on M700 rifles due to "extractor problems".
But we need pictures. Or atleast I don't see them and wont till tomorrow morning when I am at a cafe with high speed.
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allenpmw Member
Joined: Mar 09, 2009 Posts: 35 Location: utah
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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stonepipe
I'm an arospace tool maker / custume rifle maker. I have my own shop.
I have been doing this for 27 years. I live in a small tawn of 30 people the nerast stoor is 90 miles away.
I dont have a digatal cammra any sugestions ?!
I would love to post pics.
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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Ok Allan, well I'd love to see the damage. If you have a scanner, you could scan pictures you made at a photo-developer with your 35mm camera.
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whittling Super Member
Joined: Apr 21, 2008 Posts: 586 Location: Texas (home state is Mass)
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:35 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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I'm surprised at you . We collect and shoot GEW 88's and antique firearms and never blew one up
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gelandangan Super Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:18 am Post subject: Re: presser how much? blow mine up? |
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Allen you could put some photos in an envelope and send them to some other forum user that could scan them for you. (me for instance)
Otherwise, there are a lot of mobile phones nowaday that have camera in them.
So you could also use them.
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