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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

Alrighty then, same question...anyone but Vince....

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

Vince and K.W. should be Pen Pals.:cheers: Cheers


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

ElyBoy wrote:
I sure helps doesn't it Dan.

Without Christ, what is there??

Eric

well growing up in a house that was 1/2 christian and the other half Tao
i chose the taoist way of my father.
who also taught alot of the indian ways of our ancestors who were not christians.

there is peace
there is balance
there is no fear of hell
no fear of heaven
no fear of a jealous God
there is inspiration

now I dont want to offend anyone either. but I had to respond to your question

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

Fear of heaven? Confused

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

alright my love this is as easy as i can get it to explain how we make the microchips
I am waiting on two engineers to get back to me on your original question



Etch:
The removal of selected portions of materials to define patterned layers on chips.

Ions:
Atoms or molecules that have a net electrical charge. In semiconductor manufacturing, ions are the source of chemical impurities that alter the conductivity of silicon.

Masks:
Masks used in the chip-making process are like stencils. When used with the UV light, masks create the various circuit patterns on each layer of the microprocessor.

Metals:
Metals such as aluminum and copper are used to conduct the electricity throughout the microprocessor. Gold is also used to connect the actual chip to its package.

Photolithography:
The process of reproducing the chip's circuitry pattern onto the wafer surface by using ultraviolet light and stencils or masks to transfer the image photomechanically.

Photoresist:
A substance which becomes soluble when exposed to ultraviolet light; used to help define circuit patterns during chip fabrication.

Polysilicon:
Conductive material used as an interconnect layer on a chip.

Silicon Dioxide:
Grown on a wafer during chip fabrication to serve as an insulating layer.

Silicon Ingot:
A large, cylindrical, single crystal made from purified silicon. The cylinder is sliced into thin wafers which are used for making computer chips.

Silicon Wafer:
Intel uses wafers of pure silicon cut from a silicon ingot to make microprocessors. Silicon, the primary ingredient of beach sand, is a semiconductor of electricity. Semiconductors are materials that can be altered to be either a conductor or an insulator.

Ultraviolet Light:
Ultraviolet light has very short wavelengths and is just beyond the violet end of the visible spectrum. UV light is used to expose patterns on the layers of the microprocessor in a process much like photography.

and yes I understand this and I make the wiring components for machines that do this.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

Dimitri wrote:
Fear of heaven? Confused

Dimitri

some fear they wont make it
some fear what will happen when they get there
some fear that it isnt real
some fear that it is.

i just dont believe in heaven or hell.
if there is, its here in our perceptions of our lives on this planet.
i do believe in the Creator so dont misconstrude.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

Vince by the way i loved your high techie talk

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

Humm, well I've read the bible front to back a few dozen times, and I came to the conclusion all someone had to do to get into heaven was believe in God, Repent to God (NOT the church) of your sins, and try to be a good person and live your life with the attitude "Do onto others as you'd want them to do on yourself" so everyone can enjoy life to the fullest. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

growing up in Oklahoma where there is a church per person mainly and I have read the bible many many times and the kuran and other decrees of faith.
i choose to follow the path I am on.

but hey if it works for you amen bro.
native americans have been around alot longer than the bible and i follow as close as i can (still learning from my main teacher) the old ways of that path.

the rule of do unto others as you wish them to do onto you isnt just a biblical saying. its been in many faiths.
for the truth is the truth is the truth.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

Keetoowah,

I believe most religions are simply based on the first religions which do not exist anymore and were not written down. Hence why you have the story of Noah's Ark written in many different and separate religions around the world with different names. Cause its a a common story shared by our ancestors. And the very similar meanings to the religions, they all have the same underlining truth for the most part I think. Smile

But what ever religion someone choses to fallow its up to them and they can in my books believe what ever they like as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others to believe what they want as well. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

there are a few of the existing original faiths left.
dont forget the bushman of the kalihari. they arent christians or jews or muslims. they follow the old ways to this day.
the people in the depths of malaysia still follow their ways. again not extinct
and the people in new guinnea and papua new guinnea
along with traditional native americans still hold to their ways. again not lost to time.
so dearest D remember there is more than just the ones you hear about day to day.
personally i am glad there are many ways to worship this life than just one

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

Keetoowah,

When I refer to "old faiths" I mean the original faiths the first people on this earth fallowed many thousands of years ago long before the human race separated and went on different paths to different parts of the world, the ones which every other faith has evolved from. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

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thats what i am telling you some of those still exist
the bushman in the kalihari are concidered the closest to the original man if you believe we originated in africa and follow not fallow the old ways.
dont be so eager to dismiss their way of living for you think we have evolved way from it.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

there are elders i can introduce you to that tell you of the beginning as it was past down to them from the ancestors.
as far as they are concerned its the same as it was in the beginning not evolving from its origin.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: God vs Science Reply with quote

I'm not dismissing their way of thinking, I'm simply stating that no matter how close they may be to the original religions and thought processes that our ancestors had, its alot like playing telephone, after thousands of years it gets changed slowly because it was a unwritten religion no matter how hard you try to keep it the same. Smile

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