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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

I'm trying to decide on a new/different weapon for hunting purposes. I now have a Marlin (old style) 30/30 and a Ruger #1 in 7mm Rem Mag, both of which have put lots of groceries in the freezer. But, as is often the case, it's time for a change.
Have been reading, comparing, etc. and the 280 keeps coming out on top. However, I read an article by Jim Carmichael (sp?) and he kept talking about 'handloads', and yet when I look at the charts the 280 bests the 270 in every catagory.
It's not that I dislike the 270, in fact I think it's a dandy round, but everybody has a 270, and I want to be different, and still have a reliable round.
What are your thoughts about the 280.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

Welcome Hawgdawg. Smile There have been many times that I've been tempted to buy a 280 Rem. Among other calibers I already have a 25-06 and a 30-06 so a 280 really isn't necessary, but like you I really like the ballistics etc from the 280. If I was getting a new gun in that caliber range, I would also likely choose it over the 270 for the same reasons you stated. Good Luck. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

I own many rifles in a varirty of calibers and have two .280's. They are my "go to" guns for whitetail. One is a Remington 700 classic, and the other is a Remington 7400. I try to use the classic on stand and the auto for the deer drives (never know when you will need that quick second shot). I have shot four deer with this caliber (which isin't many) but they were all one shot kills. The classic on the bench shoots consistent sub-moa with a variety of handloads. The 7400 will shoot a little larger group but I have only been feeding it factory ammo. I love both of these rifles, however my good friend uses a .270 and the deer he shoots are no less dead!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

Thanks for the input. For the last few years I've been doing my hunting in West Texas, where the average shot is 100-250 yds, with the every once in a while an 80 or 300 yarder. The other hunters on the lease use everything from a 22/250 to 300wsm. My Ruger is tried and true - you point her and something is going to die, and for the closer shots the ol' Marlin has also proven worthy ( and with the 'Evolutions' being introduced she may well get more work). I could easily hunt out the last of my days with these two, and I just don't see reloading in my future, but something about the 280 just, well - you know!?!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

Yes, I know Smile
I've had a 280 for quite a few years now. So far, I've only shot deer with it. I haven't had to work the bolt yet- the first shot gets the job done, and quickly.
I wouldn't consider the 280 a 'combo' deer/varmint caliber, in my mind it's strictly a game caliber- but a darn good game caliber.
Whether it's any better than a 270, well, we could debate that for a long time, but the bottom line is, they are excellent game calibers- very effective, don't kick too much, and easy to reload for.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

Hawgdawg wrote:
Thanks for the input. For the last few years I've been doing my hunting in West Texas, where the average shot is 100-250 yds, with the every once in a while an 80 or 300 yarder. The other hunters on the lease use everything from a 22/250 to 300wsm. My Ruger is tried and true - you point her and something is going to die, and for the closer shots the ol' Marlin has also proven worthy ( and with the 'Evolutions' being introduced she may well get more work). I could easily hunt out the last of my days with these two, and I just don't see reloading in my future, but something about the 280 just, well - you know!?!

If you don't want to reload it may not be the caliber for you as I'm not sure how easy it is to get 280 factory ammo.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: .280 Remington Reply with quote

Great choice! I have too may rifles in this caliber and am about to built another one on a sporterized 1903 Springfield. I like the .270 and .30-06, but the the .280 is my preference. All the best...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

Hawgdawg I as well own two 280 Rem. one is a Ruger M77V that I bought new about 25 years and have taken more deer then I can count from ranges of 50 to 650 yards and it has preformed like a champ. The second is a Custom Rem model 721 with a Shelen 24" number 3 SS barrel and I have had that for the past 5 years. Since the hills are getting steeper and the air thinner and my boots heavier I carry this one almost every time I go after mule deer. You can not go wrong with a .280 Rem.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

If you guys don't stop praising the 280 you'll have me buying one before I know it. Not that I haven't always wanted one it's just that I haven't come across one at the right time. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

Haven't had the chance to check on 280 availability Confused , but I do have a Gander Mountain and a Bass Pro Shop within driving distance, and a few gun shops that are pretty good about stocking different ammos. And what I read in the 'GENERAL' section, well I'm still leaning toward the 280. I will let you know what happens. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

I hope you are aware that the 280 is nothing but a de-tuned 7mm Mag with a standard rim diameter. If you go to the 280 AI it IS the 7mm Mag with a standard rim diameter. If you want a 280, just drop the 7mm Mag load down about 150 FPS. Reloading for the 280 is the key to a wonderful relationship.

I have two 7mm Mags and reload for a buddy that has a 280 AI. I have never seen the reason to own a 280, but then again, who knows, one day the itch may come upon me suddenly. Smile

You might consider the step down or up in caliber.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Decisions-Decisions Reply with quote

Side Note: the 280 Ackley is one of the top chamberings for custom hunting rifles.

"Reloading is the key . . . " wrote Swampfox and I agree. Factory ammo is kept at lower SAAMI standards than necessary for bolt action rifles and handloading can easily boost performance IF you have a modern bolt action. The 280 Rem or AI may be one of the most versatile and underappreciated chamberings available.
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