HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: ombreprom
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 10
Overall: 12610

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 204
BOT: 2
Total: 206
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Forums
04: Forums
05: Forums
06: Forums
07: Forums
08: Forums
09: Photo Albums
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Forums
14: Forums
15: Forums
16: Forums
17: Forums
18: Forums
19: Forums
20: Forums
21: Forums
22: Photo Albums
23: Forums
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Forums
27: Forums
28: Forums
29: Forums
30: Forums
31: Forums
32: Forums
33: Forums
34: Forums
35: Forums
36: Your Account
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Forums
40: Forums
41: Forums
42: Forums
43: Forums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Forums
47: Forums
48: Forums
49: Forums
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: Forums
53: Forums
54: Forums
55: Forums
56: Forums
57: Home
58: Forums
59: Forums
60: Forums
61: Forums
62: Forums
63: Home
64: Forums
65: Forums
66: Forums
67: Forums
68: Forums
69: Forums
70: Forums
71: Forums
72: Forums
73: Forums
74: Forums
75: Forums
76: Home
77: Forums
78: Photo Albums
79: Forums
80: Forums
81: Forums
82: Forums
83: Your Account
84: Forums
85: Forums
86: Forums
87: Forums
88: Forums
89: Forums
90: Photo Albums
91: Forums
92: Forums
93: Forums
94: Forums
95: Forums
96: Forums
97: Forums
98: Forums
99: Forums
100: Forums
101: News
102: Forums
103: Forums
104: Forums
105: Forums
106: Forums
107: Forums
108: Forums
109: Forums
110: Forums
111: Forums
112: News
113: Forums
114: Forums
115: Forums
116: Forums
117: Forums
118: Forums
119: Forums
120: Forums
121: Forums
122: Forums
123: Forums
124: Forums
125: Your Account
126: Forums
127: Forums
128: Forums
129: Forums
130: Forums
131: Forums
132: Forums
133: Forums
134: Forums
135: Forums
136: Forums
137: Forums
138: Forums
139: Your Account
140: Forums
141: Forums
142: Forums
143: Forums
144: Forums
145: Forums
146: Forums
147: Forums
148: Forums
149: Forums
150: Forums
151: Forums
152: Forums
153: Forums
154: Forums
155: Forums
156: Forums
157: Photo Albums
158: Forums
159: Forums
160: Forums
161: Forums
162: Your Account
163: Forums
164: Forums
165: Forums
166: Forums
167: Forums
168: Forums
169: Forums
170: Forums
171: Forums
172: Forums
173: Forums
174: Forums
175: Forums
176: Forums
177: Forums
178: Forums
179: Forums
180: Forums
181: Forums
182: Photo Albums
183: Forums
184: Forums
185: Forums
186: Forums
187: Forums
188: Forums
189: Forums
190: Forums
191: Forums
192: Home
193: Forums
194: Forums
195: Forums
196: Forums
197: Forums
198: Forums
199: Forums
200: Forums
201: Forums
202: Forums
203: Photo Albums
204: Forums
  BOT:
01: Forums
02: Photo Albums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 305
 Pictures: 2361
  · Views: 412620
  · Votes: 1310
  · Comments: 86
 

Support our Advertisers

Work place Violence or Jihad?
Discussion that doesnt fit other Topics
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » General

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
BigBlue
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 16, 2006
Posts: 1105
Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:13 pm    Post subject: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

I'm not going to rehash the whole story of the San Bernardino shootings, by now I'm sure we all heard the reports. What I did want to address is whether or not this will be called terrorism or work place violence as in the FT. Hood shootings. To that end I'll start with a report that I heard on a local television station that said Syed Rizwan Farook, one of the shooters, had recently spent a month in Saudi Arabia and was thought to have returned with a wife. The other shooter, Tashfeen Malik, is thought to either be his Wife or Fiancee. It is reported that they had two .223 semi-automatic rifles and two handguns, legally bought and police also had found pipe bombs wired to detonate using remote control toy controllers. When the shootings occurred both shooters were dressed in black tactical clothing with masks which leads me to believe this had been planned and not a spur of the moment reaction. You may be able to grab your guns on short notice, but you don't learn how to build explosives and complete a remotely detonated devise on the spur of the moment. I know there is a lot of investigating to do and most if not all of this is speculation, but given the reports so far, I'm led to believe there may be much more to this than simple work place violence. I do believe that if Obama had been President on 9/11, we would have heard that the people that commandeered the planes were actually pilots in training and that 9/11 was only workplace violence.
BTW, Our dear leader was once again in a rush to push his anti-gun agenda and called for stricter gun control while this story was still ongoing. Something the media won't say is that the gun control that Obama is asking for is already in place in California.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 7518
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

Scratch it cannot be work place violence......unless all three??? shooters/nut jobs worked there and were sacked at same time....and even then it is premeditated murder not a spur/heat of the moment thing
a sad sad day which ever way you look at it Sad

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
dhc4ever
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 26, 2011
Posts: 2355
Location: Ipswich, Queensland Australia

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

The media over here has been in a frenzy over this, your gun laws or lack thereof, 2 nd ammendment blah blah blah.
They even rolled out ex deputy prime minister tim fischer who was spouting how well the Australian gun laws work and why you lot should adopt them and how proud he was he was part of their implementation.
I almost vomited, 19 years later I still get that reaction.
BB, if looks like a terrorist, quacks like a terrorist, takes on the unarmed and disabled like cowards and is a saudi, its a terrorist.
What are the current gun laws in California?
Obviously the current laws against murder, assault, being a terrorist, building bombs, multible vehicle offenses didnt work so our fearless leaders still think the answer is of course more laws.

_________________
Pete

Dont do anything you wont like explaining to the paramedics..............
Back to top
View user's profile
BigBlue
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 16, 2006
Posts: 1105
Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

California Gun Laws: oag.ca.gov/sites/all/f...l2013.pdf?
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
BigBlue
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 16, 2006
Posts: 1105
Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

At 8:30 PST last night CAIR, set up a news conference. How did they know the shooters were Muslim? The San Bernadino Police did't release the names of the shooters until they held a news conference at 10:30PST. Someone was in the know and released the information to them ahead of the official announcement.

"The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) wasted no time before holding a press conference in California to defend Islam after a horrific deadly shooting carried out by multiple gunmen, one of whom authorities say is a man named Syed Farook.

“We have condemned all violence everywhere,” said speaker Muzammil Siddiqi in the press conference. He heads the Islamic Society of Orange County mosque in Garden Grove, California. Siddiqi urged people “not implicate Islam or Muslims” because “our faith is against that kind of behavior.”

But Siddiqi’s past statements suggest otherwise.

“America has to learn — if you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come!” Siddiqui said at a White House protest against Israel in 2000.

Siddiqi also reportedly praised suicide bombers, as reported by the Kansas City Star.

“Those who die on the part of justice are alive, and their place is with the Lord, and they receive the highest position, because this is the highest honor,” Siddiqui said in a 1995 speech."


We may not be at war with Islam, but Islam is most definitely at war with us. Beliefs in Islam are the same and there is no such thing as a radical Islamist anymore than there are moderate Islamists. There are however active Jihadis and rest are those that support them.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
dhc4ever
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 26, 2011
Posts: 2355
Location: Ipswich, Queensland Australia

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

BigBlue wrote:
California Gun Laws: oag.ca.gov/sites/all/f...l2013.pdf?

Well bugger me, the perp and friend paid absolutely NO attention to most of the above, obviously you need stronger wording and more laws, that'll fix it.

Start writing your congressmen threatening removal from the trough of public money, dont let the thin edge of their "reasonable" laws get started, the end game is total civilian disarmament as per every UN treaty you've signed onto.

_________________
Pete

Dont do anything you wont like explaining to the paramedics..............
Back to top
View user's profile
Suzanne
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 27, 2009
Posts: 3311
Location: Eugene, Oregon

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:07 am    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

Thanks BB!! and isn't there a third shooter? Don't know what happened to that one. Yeah the national news today (I was surprised they admitted it) said that it was unclear whether it will be called a terrorist attack then they outlined the shooter's background and identified it to be a terrorist act (to me anyway). The male shooter was attending a party there, left for a few moments then came back with his wife to shoot up the place. They interviewed a guy sitting at a table with him. They thought he left to go to the bathroom or something. Nothing about that leaves me to question the motive, when connected to their horde of pipe bombs and other explosives they found.

The shooting in the Planned Parenthood place was cleared up very quickly the same day. No thumb up their behind on that one. I love the crazy look on that guy's face in the photos. Any police mug shots of this guy and his wife will have to come later as we don't want to embarrass anyone. I hope they crank them up like they did this Planned Parenthood guy. He looked ready for another shot of crack or heroine or what ever he was on.

The big O was certainly ready to stop us from buying guns, or at least as he put it, not impossible but very hard to buy. Local news stopped by all the local gun shops for a quick assessment of gun sales. They want to get that gun violence shot in there before it's absolved by it being terrorist related I guess. Once it's terrorist related they'll let us arm ourselves again, but for now we have to watch the gun sales, the background checks and all that malarkey.

I'm glad I don't know anyone with a middle-eastern sounding name....don't think we'd get along very well right now.

Suz

_________________
May the moon keep you centered,
May the sun keep you dancing,
And the stars shed light on your dreams.
Back to top
View user's profile
Vince
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 13612
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:17 am    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

National Review:

Mass Shootings and Gun Control

"Colorado had already expanded background checks two years ago. So had Oregon before the Umpqua Community College shooting in October. France also has a background-check system. So too does California, which experienced yesterday’s attack. Yet, while the existing laws didn’t stop shootings of the very kind Clinton claims that they will stop, she uses these failures to justify imposing similar laws on the rest of the country."



ca.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  79.08 KB
 Viewed:  4181 Time(s)

ca.jpg


_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
BigBlue
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 16, 2006
Posts: 1105
Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

It's kinda hard for Obama to blame this on Islamic terrorism after his September 2012 address to the UN, “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”-Obama
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Suzanne
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 27, 2009
Posts: 3311
Location: Eugene, Oregon

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

EK!! Did he say that? OH my my....


Suz
proud to be
a non-prophet

_________________
May the moon keep you centered,
May the sun keep you dancing,
And the stars shed light on your dreams.
Back to top
View user's profile
BigBlue
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 16, 2006
Posts: 1105
Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:43 am    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

How many of the dead or wounded of San Bernadino were denied the right of self defense by the State of California? My guess is everyone of them!
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
BigBlue
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 16, 2006
Posts: 1105
Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:47 am    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

Suzanne wrote:
EK!! Did he say that? OH my my....


Suz
proud to be
a non-prophet
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
BigBlue
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 16, 2006
Posts: 1105
Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

dhc4ever wrote:

They even rolled out ex deputy prime minister tim fischer who was spouting how well the Australian gun laws work and why you lot should adopt them and how proud he was he was part of their implementation.

The place where the Tim Fischers of this world live must be truly magical, all unicorns and rainbows, but here in the real world simply writing a law does not stop crime. If that were so our jails would be empty and believe me they are not. The reason being is that darn near everyone in those jails had violated a written law. Hard to imagine isn't it? People like good old Tim just don't seem to realize that laws do not prevent any crime, they merely give a means by which to punish those that break them. It is good to know however that Old Tim has been so successful that he no longer requires armed guards to protect him. He doesn't have armed guards does he? The only reason I ask is that most of those over here that would see us unarmed and helpless have armed guards protecting them. Well the fact of the matter is that I don't ever plan on being disarmed no matter what laws the Tims of this country come up with. There's a very old saying that comes to mind, Molon Labe!
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
BigBlue
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 16, 2006
Posts: 1105
Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

After writing the last post I got thinking about the best way to honor such people as Tim Fisher or any Communist for that matter and I came up with what I think is a great idea. I went online and ordered an unissued Makarov! Here's to you Tim old friend!
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
BigBlue
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 16, 2006
Posts: 1105
Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Work place Violence or Jihad? Reply with quote

We have our answer! www.cbc.ca/news/world/...-1.3350496
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » General
Page 1 of 3
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Advertisements
 


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.