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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:10 am    Post subject: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

I came across this picture of 4 12g shotguns. All rather interesting looking guns...rather curious about the bottom one though...most unusual.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

A bit more to add of the last shotgun...



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

I'd say it's a Hopkins and Allen falling block or something in that realm. Looks like a Winchester 1885 low wall too. HHhmmmm...


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

Hmmmmmmm is right. The hammer is high and the forestock pinned. Are you sure it is a 12 guage and not a smoothbore rifle? I looked through my antique firearms book and found some old British elephant guns that looked simliar but they had recurves/spurs on the trigger guard for opening.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

Definitely a 12g Mac.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

I'd say that's not a pin but a cross bolt and it looks to be Swiss or German. They used cross bolts that had metal washers around them shaped in such a way as to not be able to spin (like a teardrop or in this case sort of a chevron). That's a tough one, I can't find any shotguns that look like that. Trigger guard, forestock....could be a converted falling block. Forestocks for shotguns seem to usually (on antiques) be shaped into a Schnabel or a wedge blending into the barrel, not rounded like this one, that's why I think it could be a converted rifle. I can't find anything like it.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

Hmm a Chicopee style action shotgun.
Pretty rare indeed.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

Marlin
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definitely drop block but indeed unusual.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

its pinned like the black powder guns

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

Here's how it's attached, not a pin but a cross bolt. If you blow up the photos, especially the first one, you can see the same escutcheon design as in this photo. It has two little wings and a screw head.


The pinned barrel has an elongated escutcheon


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:59 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

YUP

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

Ok Vinnie what is it?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

A couple more pics to tantalise you...



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

AS I suspected a gun !!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture Reply with quote

Comblain? (the jpg title) It's totally weird, quite old, I wouldn't know the name anyway. Looked for the MC proof mark.....nuthin...



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