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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8312 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Aurora Colorado |
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I think some of the injured/wounded were from chemicals and explosives.
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ElyBoy Super Member
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 1541 Location: Forest Lake Minnesota
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Aurora Colorado |
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My best friend is pro gun, but on his FB page some of his anti gun friends are trashing guns and the NRA.
I'm arguing with them, and making the same points that we do on this forum, and getting exactly nowhere.
It is totally impossible to argue common sense with the liberal mind.
If liberals had any common sense at all, they wouldn't be liberals in the first place.
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MacD Super Member
Joined: Apr 08, 2011 Posts: 1052 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Aurora Colorado |
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We just had a gang shooting in Toronto before this incident in Aurora. Our minister of justice was asked if handguns should be banned. His reply was that current controls are strict but they only affect honest, law abiding owners. No law will keep the criminal from having a gun.
The question that I would like answered is what caused the shooter to plan and carry out a slaughter of random people. I believe that the constant barrage of violence in movies, games etc. has made such acts easier for the individual to comprehend as acceptable. This perhaps explains the method but not the motivation. Blaming the tools he used won't help prevent it from happening again. He could just as easly started a fire or planted a bomb.
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English Mike Super Member
Joined: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: Aurora Colorado |
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ElyBoy wrote: |
My best friend is pro gun, but on his FB page some of his anti gun friends are trashing guns and the NRA.
I'm arguing with them, and making the same points that we do on this forum, and getting exactly nowhere.
It is totally impossible to argue common sense with the liberal mind.
If liberals had any common sense at all, they wouldn't be liberals in the first place.
Eric |
They're not even "liberals"; they usurped that description to cover their REAL ideals - socialism & the control of the population that entails.
The sub-sect who call themselves "progressives" are nothing more than communists under a false flag.
Both of the above do all they can to portray pro self defence people as being indifferent to these tragic events, rather than the truth that we are more angered & dismayed by them than they ever are.
A plague on both their hypocritical houses.
I've BEEN there as far as tragic events go, when two years ago an old friend of mine murdered twelve & injured 11 more people here using a rifle & shotgun. Some were people I knew well.
It didn't turn me against guns because it was HIM, not the guns that did the killing.
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English Mike Super Member
Joined: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Aurora Colorado |
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It appears that Aurora DOES in fact have ordinances against CCW, loaded firearms in vehicles & others.
These have been declared unenforceable by the State but how many law-abiding citizens would wish to test that?
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1. "Dangerous weapon" includes firearm
2. Revocation of license for furnishing a firearm to a minor or someone under the influence.
3. Window displays cannot include firearms with barrels less than 12 inches long.
4. Unlawful to carry concealed "dangerous weapon"
5. Unlawful to discharge firearms, unless by law enforcement on duty or on shooting range.
6. Unlawful to possess firearm while under the influence of intoxicant
7. Unlawful to have loaded firearm in motor vehicle.
8. Unlawful for a juvenile to possess a firearm. |
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5000 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Aurora Colorado |
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English Mike, I haven't looked at Aurora's laws but I know that some sections of law here say that concealed carry is illegal while others say it is legal with a permit. The confusion comes from allowing politicians and lawyers to write laws...
I sometime wonder if the laws are intentionally confusing in order to deter concealed carry. I once asked a law enforcement official what the law was for concealed carry in his jurisdiction and was told that "it is your responsibility to know the law." Well DUH!! That's why I asked the people who were enforcing the law!! I never did get a straight answer.
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pete4d Super Member
Joined: Nov 27, 2011 Posts: 957 Location: Dixie , Alabama , & Louisiana
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Aurora Colorado |
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Pumpkinslinger wrote: |
English Mike, I haven't looked at Aurora's laws but I know that some sections of law here say that concealed carry is illegal while others say it is legal with a permit. The confusion comes from allowing politicians and lawyers to write laws...
I sometime wonder if the laws are intentionally confusing in order to deter concealed carry. I once asked a law enforcement official what the law was for concealed carry in his jurisdiction and was told that "it is your responsibility to know the law." Well DUH!! That's why I asked the people who were enforcing the law!! I never did get a straight answer. |
pumpkin / You weren't surprised with by the answers ,, most "cops" are only revenue collectors . Many Have no idea about the bill of rights and our constitutional rights
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9232 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Aurora Colorado |
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English Mike wrote: |
I've BEEN there as far as tragic events go, when two years ago an old friend of mine murdered twelve & injured 11 more people here using a rifle & shotgun. Some were people I knew well.
It didn't turn me against guns because it was HIM, not the guns that did the killing. |
I am soory for that loss.
I lost a cousin when I was a teenager when she was shot and killed by her older brother so I too have that same thought in my head.
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